Surface integral to line integral

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The discussion revolves around the integral identity relating surface integrals to line integrals, specifically the differentiation of a double integral with respect to a parameter t. The user seeks clarification on how to derive the line integral from the given identity, particularly when considering the growth of the domain defined by g(x,y) ≤ t. Suggestions include changing variables to express the integrals in terms of the line element and exploring the Jacobian determinant for the transformation. The conversation highlights the complexity of handling cases where the derivative dy/dx approaches infinity and the need to define perpendicular elements in relation to the level curves of g. Ultimately, the thread seeks a formal method to arrive at the line integral from the surface integral.
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I am agonizing about the following integral identity:

<br /> \frac{d}{dt} \int \int_{g(x,y) \leq t} f(x,y) dx dy = \int_{g(x,y)=t} f(x,y) \frac{1}{\left| \nabla g(x,y) \right|} ds,<br />

where ds is the line element. Clearly, using the Heavisite step function, the condition g(x,y) \leq t is transferred into the integrand. Differentiation with respect to t yields a Dirac delta-function. However, how can I eventually arrive at the line integral. The picture is quite clear, if one imagines a domain defined by g(x,y) \leq t which is growing with t. The increase in the integral can then be evaluated by summing contributions along its circumference with \left| \nabla g(x,y) \right| giving the density of isolines.

How can one formally obtain this result?

Thank you for you help,
Daniel
 
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Welcome to PF!

Hi Daniel! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have a del: ∇ and an integral: ∫ and a ≤ :wink:)

Have you tried changing variables from x and y to s and g ?
 


tiny-tim said:
Have you tried changing variables from x and y to s and g ?

Is this what you suggest:

<br /> s = \int \sqrt{ 1 + (\frac{dy}{dx})^2} dx<br />

for constant g we have furthermore:

<br /> g(x,y) = t = const \Rightarrow<br /> g_x + g_y \frac{dy}{dx} = 0<br />

and, thus,

<br /> s = \int \sqrt{ 1 + (g_x/g_y)^2} dx<br />

The jacobian determinant is

<br /> J = 1/(\left| g_x s_y - g_y s_x \right|) = 1/(\left| 0 - g_y \sqrt{ 1 + (g_x/g_y)^2} \right|) = 1/(\left|\nabla g \right|)<br />

What about if \frac{dy}{dx} goes to infinity?
 
uhh? :confused:

dxdy is obviously dsdw, for some w perpendicular to g = constant …

what is that w, in terms of x y and g ? :smile:
 
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