Swimming pool heating problem

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The discussion revolves around the most cost-effective method for maintaining the temperature of a swimming pool in a UK holiday complex during a one-month closure in January. Participants explore whether it is cheaper to turn off the heating system completely or to maintain the pool's temperature throughout the month.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether it is more energy-efficient to allow the pool to cool completely and then reheat it or to keep the heating on, noting that there is no single answer to this question.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for specific data, such as how much fuel is burned in a typical month to maintain the pool's temperature, to make a comparison with the energy required to reheat the pool.
  • A participant raises the issue of what temperature the pool would drop to during the closure, asking if it would reach the ambient air temperature or potentially get colder.
  • One participant suggests that if the time interval were extended to 100 years, the answer might differ, implying a long-term perspective on energy consumption.
  • Another participant asserts that maintaining a constant temperature uses more energy due to heat loss being proportional to the temperature difference, suggesting that allowing the pool to cool would reduce heat loss rate.
  • A warning is issued about the potential consequences if the water were to freeze during the closure.
  • One participant reiterates the idea that to minimize energy consumption, it is best to stop heating the pool when not in use and reheat it when needed, while also considering the implications of pool unavailability during the heating period.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best approach to maintaining the pool's temperature, with some arguing for the benefits of allowing the pool to cool and others emphasizing the risks and costs associated with unavailability during reheating. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the specific energy costs associated with maintaining versus reheating the pool, and there are uncertainties regarding the temperature drop and its implications for heating efficiency.

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I need to work out the most cost effective way to maintain a swimming pool in a UK holiday complex that is closing for 1 month in January and hope that someone can help.

I would like to know if it would be cheaper to turn off the heating system for a month and then reheat it from base temperature or keep the heating on.


The pool is 10m x4m and is 1.4m deep
The ambient air temperature can be kept at 20 degrees Celsius but this could also be turned off.
The pool and the air is heated by an oil boiler

So I guess the question is in principle does it use less energy to allow the temperature to drop all the way and then heat it up rather than to just maintain it.

Thank you in advance
 
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lauraaa said:
So I guess the question is in principle does it use less energy to allow the temperature to drop all the way and then heat it up rather than to just maintain it.
There's no single answer "in principle".

How much fuel is burned in a typical month keeping the pool heated? You're going to compare that number with a back-of-the-envelope calculation of how much fuel would be burned to reheat the pool.
 
Ok, so I would need to know what temperature the pool would drop to. Do you know if it would drop to the ambient air temperature or could it get colder? Thanks
 
Suppose the time interval were 100 years instead of 1 month. What would your answer to that be?

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Actually, guys, since the OP doesn't ask "how much", only "which is more" (edit: or, at least, that's the bottom line question), there IS an easy, in principle answer to the question:

You use more energy maintaining a constant temperature because the heat loss is proportional to temperature difference. So as the pool cools, the heat loss rate drops.
 
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Warning - if the water freezes you are in trouble.
 
russ_watters said:
Actually, guys, since the OP doesn't ask "how much", only "which is more" (edit: or, at least, that's the bottom line question), there IS an easy, in principle answer to the question:

You use more energy maintaining a constant temperature because the heat loss is proportional to temperature difference. So as the pool cools, the heat loss rate drops.

Hmmm - yes - you're right. To minimize the energy consumption, the winning strategy is to stop heating the pool any time that it's not required to be at its operational temperature and heat it back to that temperature whenever it is needed.

That does mean that sometimes the pool will be unavailable while it's warming up, and the important piece of information that we need is: What is the cost (lost revenue, angry customers) of that period of unavailability? That can range from zero (scheduled shutdown during the off-season, reheating complete when the doors open for the new season) to very high. In this case, OP has already told us that it's a scheduled off-season shutdown so it's easy.
 

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