Swing of a hanging rope due to wind

  • Context: Undergrad 
  • Thread starter Thread starter derek88
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Rope Swing Wind
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the swing height of a rope suspended between two poles due to wind pressure. The key variables include the height of the poles (H), the horizontal separation (S), the rope length (L), the rope diameter (D), and the sustained wind pressure (W). The participants analyze the forces acting on the rope, including wind load and gravitational force, and suggest that the equilibrium of torques will determine the swing angle. The discussion emphasizes the need to equate the torques produced by the wind and the weight of the rope to find the swing height.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic physics concepts such as torque and equilibrium
  • Familiarity with wind load calculations on cylindrical surfaces
  • Knowledge of forces acting on rigid bodies
  • Basic mathematical skills for solving equations involving angles and forces
NEXT STEPS
  • Research "Calculating wind load on structures" for detailed methodologies
  • Study "Torque equilibrium in rigid bodies" to understand the balance of forces
  • Explore "Dynamics of pendulum motion" for insights on swing mechanics
  • Investigate "Applications of integrals in physics" for advanced calculations related to this problem
USEFUL FOR

Engineers, physicists, and students studying mechanics, particularly those interested in the effects of wind on structures and the dynamics of suspended objects.

derek88
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
Hello Friends. I have a question that may have to do with wind lift and other effects.

I have two wooden poles set into the ground. Both poles are upright and has a height of H feet. The horizontal separation of these poles is S feet. Let's say I attach a rope in between these poles so that the ends of the rope are attached to the tops of the poles. This rope has a length of L feet and has a diameter of D feet.

If I have a sustained wind pressure of W lbs/ft^2, how high will the rope swing?

My work so far:

Wind load on the rope = (Diameter of rope, in feet)*(Wind Pressure on a cylindrical surface, in lbs/ft^2) [lbs/foot]

Total Force on rope = (Wind load on rope, lbs/foot)*(Length of rope, in feet) [lbs]

Any help/direction on this problem would be greatly appreciated! Also any helpful internet links. Thank you.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
briefly: force times distance

I am not sure if you need to work out some kind of integral or not, after all, the weight of the rope is nicely equally distributed and so is the force from the wind. So, maybe averages would be just find (i.e., rope as rigid body and force on center of mass)

But things are going to work out like this:

The weight of the rope is always point down
initially, the "parallel" distance from the weight to the pivot (top of posts) is zero and hence the torque is zero
the force of the wind is alway horizontal
the distance of the wind force to the pivot can be probably averaged and say that it is half way down the swing and so there is an initial force that overcomes the zero force from the weight
as the swing swings away from the vertical position, the weight of the swing starts producing its own torque and as the center of mass moves higher, it reduces the torque from the wind...at some angle, the two torques become the same...that is what you are looking for...so, right the equation equating the two torques as function of the angle of the swing from the vertical
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 32 ·
2
Replies
32
Views
12K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
15K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
5K