System of 4 equations in 4 unknowns

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The discussion revolves around a system of four equations with four unknowns (A, B, C, D) involving exponential and trigonometric functions, where k is a positive real number. The original poster seeks to understand how to proceed with solving the system and questions the uniqueness of solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss substituting expressions for D and C derived from the first two equations into the remaining equations. There is a concern about the implications of dividing by expressions involving sine, cosine, and exponential functions due to potential zero values. The original poster also raises a question about the possibility of having infinitely many solutions in this context, linking it to an eigenvalue problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering various approaches, including the suggestion to use matrix methods from linear algebra. There is an acknowledgment of the fixed nature of k as a positive real number, which some participants clarify in response to earlier comments.

Contextual Notes

The original poster references boundary conditions related to an eigenvalue problem, indicating that the system may have solutions characterized by an arbitrary constant due to the nature of eigenfunctions.

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Homework Statement


0 = A+B+D
0 = A-B+C
0 = A exp(k) + B exp(-k) + C sin(k) + D cos(k)
0 = A exp(k) - B exp(-k) + C cos(k) - D sin(k)

Solve for A, B, C, D in the above system. (k is a positive real number)

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


1st equation=> D = -A-B
2nd equation=> C = B-A
Put these into the 3rd and 4th equation, we get:
0 = A exp(k) + B exp(-k) + (B-A) sin(k) + (-A-B) cos(k)
0 = A exp(k) - B exp(-k) + (B-A) cos(k) - (-A-B) sin(k)

How should I continue??

Just wondering: In a system of 4 equations in 4 unknowns, is it POSSIBLE to have infinitely many solutions? or must the solution be unique?

Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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Now you have two equations and two unknowns, so solve one equation for A or B and plug that into the other equation.
 
w3390 said:
Now you have two equations and two unknowns, so solve one equation for A or B and plug that into the other equation.

But I don't think we can divide by that stuff involoving sin, cos, and exp because it may be zero.

Also, I am expecting to have infinitely many solutions because this actually comes from an eigenvalue problem: ODE X'''' = λ X with boundary conditions X(0)=X'(0)=X(1)=X'(1)=0
Here λ=k^4, with k>0
where k is solution cos(k) cosh(k) = 1.
To find the eigenfunctions, I got the above system of 4 equations in 4 unknowns. Since any nonzero multiple of an eigenfunction is again an eigenfunciton, I am expecting the solution of the system to have one arbitrary constant.

Can someone please help??
 
If you know linear algebra, do it in a matrix. You should be able to get all unknowns A,B,C, and D. k will remain an arbitrary constant.
 
But I think k here is a FIXED (given) positive real number??
 
Yes, that's what flatmaster just said: " k will remain an arbitrary constant."
 

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