System of two differential equations

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The discussion revolves around a system of two differential equations, specifically focusing on the equations x'' - 3x' + 2x = 0 and y' + y²cot(t + π/2) = 0. Participants are exploring the implications of the solutions derived from these equations and the nature of their coupling through initial conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the forms of the solutions for x and y, questioning the implications of the initial conditions and the nature of the system as potentially independent equations rather than a coupled system. There is exploration of how the constants in the solutions relate to each other.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of the equations and the role of initial conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the expression of constants in terms of each other, while differing interpretations of the system's structure are being explored.

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There is a noted absence of initial conditions for y(0), which contributes to the ambiguity in the solutions. Participants are also considering the implications of the second equation being undefined at t=0.

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Homework Statement
Solve the system of differential equations
Relevant Equations
x''-3x'+2x = 0 , x(0)= u
y'+y^2cot(t + pi/2)=0
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The first equation leads to x = ae^2t + be^t
and the second equation leads to y=[1/(ln(sint+pi/2)+c)]

this corresponds to the system

a+b=1/c
2a+b=1

which has infinitely many solutions. what am I missing here?
 
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docnet said:
Homework Statement:: Solve the system of differential equations
Relevant Equations:: x''-3x'+2x = 0 , x(0)= u
y'+y^2cot(t + pi/2)=0

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The first equation leads to x = ae^2t + be^t
and the second equation leads to y=[1/(ln(sint+pi/2)+c)]

this corresponds to the system

a+b=1/c
2a+b=1

which has infinitely many solutions. what am I missing here?
You have no initial condition for ##y(0)## so you get a set of solutions. All you can do is express ##a,b## in terms of ##c##.
 
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Okay, then

a = 1-(1/c)
b = (2/c) - 1

and the solution is

x = ((1-(1/c))e^2t + ((2/c)-1)e^t
y = 1/[ln(sint+pi/2)+c]
 
At least I don't see what else could be done without additional information. The second equation is not defined at ##t=0## but that doesn't mean that ##y## isn't defined. But we do not know ##\dot{y}(0)##, so we cannot perform any limit considerations.
 
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Doesn't look like a system of equations to me. It's two independent equations sharing a common initial value. I strongly suspect a misprint.
 
haruspex said:
Doesn't look like a system of equations to me. It's two independent equations sharing a common initial value. I strongly suspect a misprint.
Thats what i thought at my first glance too, but then i realized that the coupling is in the initial condition, which creates a coupling in the constants that appear in the two solutions.
 
Delta2 said:
Thats what i thought at my first glance too, but then i realized that the coupling is in the initial condition, which creates a coupling in the constants that appear in the two solutions.
Sure, but the process of solving each is completely independent of the other. More socially distanced than coupled.
 
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haruspex said:
Sure, but the process of solving each is completely independent of the other. More socially distanced than coupled.
Well i kind of agree, the processes of solving are independent (up to the constants) however the two solutions are coupled because the constants that appear in them are coupled.
 
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