Taking a chemistry course with no chemistry background

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The discussion revolves around a physics student with no prior chemistry background seeking advice on taking a chemical oceanography course that requires a foundational understanding of freshman chemistry. Participants share their experiences and perspectives on the difficulty of freshman chemistry compared to physics and offer suggestions for preparation.

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  • One participant suggests that freshman chemistry is easier than freshman physics, indicating that it starts with the basics and may not require extensive prior study.
  • Another participant shares their experience of freshman chemistry being focused on memorization of formulas and basic concepts, asserting that it was less challenging than calculus-based physics.
  • Concerns are raised about potential differences in course rigor depending on the educational system, with a participant noting that some universities may have higher expectations for students who did not take high school chemistry.
  • A participant recommends using online resources, such as Khan Academy, to familiarize oneself with general chemistry concepts before the course begins.
  • Advice is given to seek help from professors during office hours, emphasizing that they may be supportive of students who are proactive about their learning challenges.

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Participants generally agree that freshman chemistry is manageable for someone with a physics background, but there are differing opinions on the level of difficulty and preparation required. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the exact nature of the course's demands.

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There is mention of varying educational standards between different regions, which may affect the perceived difficulty of the course. Additionally, the discussion reflects a range of personal experiences that may not be universally applicable.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students transitioning from physics to chemistry, particularly those considering courses in chemical oceanography or related fields without a formal chemistry background.

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Hello all

I am a physics student who just finished the second year of my BS. I am looking to get into oceanography, and therefore I am considering taking (among others) a course in chemical oceanography next semester. A two-semester freshman chemistry course is a formal prerequisite to the chem oceanography course.

Unfortunately I have no background in chemistry whatsoever. I have obviously seen a periodic table or two in classes like QM and atomic physics, but that's really it. I don't even have high school chemistry courses. However, I have been accepted into the course as I am going to be an exchange student, and I thought this could make an excellent opportunity to learn a bit of basic chemistry in the summer (although I know by experience that this studying will be very sporadic and unstructured, unfortunately). My question is: how difficult is freshman chemistry? Compared to freshman physics for example? Are the subjects hard to grasp? And am I being stupid to attend a chemistry course without the right background?

I otherwise have a decent background in physics and math, and I've taken the required course in general oceanography. I have an ok GPA but nothing outstanding.

Thank you for your help, any input is greatly appreciated!
 
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Compared to physics, it's much easier IMO. Freshman Chemical will begin with the basics, so you shouldn't have to study beforehand. Maybe learn why the periodic table is laid out the way it is and how to name different compounds. You should be fine; easy A for me.
 
I was in the same situation as you, with the same apprehension. Maybe your freshman chemistry is different, but mine was largely an exercise in memorizing formulas and a few polyatomic ions. It was algebra-based, so any engineering or physics student should be fine with the math. Compared to my calculus-based physics (which I also didn't have any prior experience in), it was almost a joke, although I learned a lot.

Freshman chemistry will almost inevitably start at the beginning. Hell, mine started out with dimensional analysis, significant figures, and basic non-chemistry stuff. However, if you're studying in Europe or somewhere like that, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they start at a more advanced level. Universities in America like to coddle the folks who didn't pay attention in high school.
 
Thanks for your help! Enlightening and encouraging answers.

Just to clarify - the course I am planning to take is not freshman chemistry, but a chemical oceanography course that has freshman chem as a prerequisite (which it is possible to lure ones way around as an exchange student..). I'm guessing it won't be a very heavy course though, and since the freshman chemistry seems manageable, I think I'll give it a shot.
 
khan academy has a great series of videos on gen chem I/II. If you just familiarize yourself with those and know the basics of scientific measurement and lab protocol you should be fine if freshmen chem is the prerequisite.
 
Also, don't be afraid to go and ask your professor at office hours about concepts that he or she blew over. If you explain the situation, they will almost certainly understand. In fact, they may even be a little impressed with you if you end up doing well in the course. Always a plus to have a professor look favorably on you.
 
Thanks guys. Much appreciated!
 

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