Taking a course that doesn't rely much on textbook

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a student in an upper division chemical engineering course that does not heavily rely on a textbook. Participants explore concerns about exam preparation and the limited resources available for studying the material presented in lectures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to prepare for exams due to the sparse information provided in lectures, which are described as being summarized on one side of a piece of paper.
  • Another participant questions whether the limitation of information is a reflection of the lecture itself or the note-taking skills of the student.
  • Suggestions are made to consult with students who have previously taken the course for practical advice on managing the workload and expectations.
  • Concerns are raised about the amount of silence in a class where minimal information is presented, leading to questions about the effectiveness of the teaching method.
  • A participant seeks advice on how to approach studying in a class that lacks a comprehensive set of practice problems typically found in textbooks.

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Participants express varied opinions on the effectiveness of the lecture format and the adequacy of resources for exam preparation. There is no consensus on how to best handle the situation, indicating multiple competing views remain.

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The discussion highlights limitations in available study materials and the potential impact of teaching methods on student learning. There are unresolved questions regarding the adequacy of lecture content and the effectiveness of alternative study strategies.

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Students in upper division engineering courses, particularly those facing similar challenges with course structure and resource availability.

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Hello,

I am taking my first upper division chemical engineering course, which is sort of a survey class that introduces the various topics and methodologies in chemical engineering.

This is my first time having a professor that doesn't rely much on the book, and in his own terms "the lecture loosely follows the textbook''. To me there is a lot of uncertainty in how to prepare for the exams since there is not a lot of information to go on. The lecture can be written in notes on one side of one piece of paper.

I am worried because this class is known as being killer, and I could see how, given how sparse the information is available to us, and at this level there isn't a lot of tutorials on youtube like one would find for physics and chemistry topics. This stuff isn't on khanacademy

Basically, how does one deal with a class with so little information presented, yet so much expected?
 
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Woopydalan said:
The lecture can be written in notes on one side of one piece of paper.

Is this a statement about the lecture or about your note-taking skills?

If someone talks for an hour, that's ~5000 words. It would be unusual for a summary of that to fit in only one side of one sheet of paper.
 
You may consult students taken this course in previous years. They may have practical solution for this "killer".
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Is this a statement about the lecture or about your note-taking skills?

If someone talks for an hour, that's ~5000 words. It would be unusual for a summary of that to fit in only one side of one sheet of paper.

So if one was to copy everything written on the blackboard, one would find there to be 1 side of 1 sheet of paper of information.

I know your next response is to copy what is orally said, but I think that not much more was given. I mean saying in words what the equations say I suppose.
 
There must be an awful lot of silence in a class where the professor writes on the equivalent of one side of one sheet of paper and only reads that.
 
Does anyone have advice for how to go about taking a class that has limited questions to practice with? I'm of course used to a full textbook with 100 problems/chapter to accompany the lecture.
 

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