Taking the limit of a complex function

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of a complex function as z approaches i, specifically the expression (i(z)^3 - 1) / (z + i). Participants are exploring various methods to evaluate this limit within the context of complex analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster considers different approaches to evaluate the limit, including substituting z with x + iy and expanding the expression, as well as the implications of taking limits along different paths in the complex plane. Some participants question the correctness of the function setup and whether it leads to an indeterminate form. Others discuss the continuity of polynomials and the implications for evaluating limits.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the continuity of functions and the evaluation of limits, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of evaluating limits in the complex plane and the potential need for epsilon-delta proofs to establish continuity, which adds to the discussion's depth. There are also mentions of potential errors in the original function setup and the implications of different paths of approach.

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Homework Statement



Hi guys. I was hoping you could help me find the limit of a complex function. So here goes:

The lim z --> i of [i(z)^3 - 1 ] / (z+i)

The Attempt at a Solution



If z approaches i, then (x,y) approaches (0,1)

Do I let z = x+iy, then expand out the cube and plug in 0's for x's and 1's for y's in one limit?

Or do I do two limits, one letting x go to 0, the other letting y go to one and compare these two limits?

Or do I just plug in i for z right off the bat and expand that out?

Basically, how is it possible to test the limit from every approach in the complex plane without doing some
kind of epsilon / delta proof.




Thank you very much if you respond.
 
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Did you write out that function correctly, because it seems that it is not an indeterminant form and just approaches 0. Maybe the bottom is supposed to be z-i?
 
Well the question actually asks evaluate the limit or explain why it doesn't exist. So perhaps it doesn't exist.
 
It does exist, but it's the quotient of two continuous functions, and the denominator does not approach 0, so that makes it very simple. Do you know anything about the limit of the quotient of continuous functions?
 
Thank you very much. Yes, the limit of the quotient of two continuous functions is just the quotient of the limits.

But if I plug in i for z (since the function is continuous about i) I get:
i*i^3 - 1 / (i +i)

= i^4 -1 / 2i

= 0 / 2i = 0.

But if I take the limit as x,y approaches (0,1), where z = x+iy, I get:

lim x,y --> 0,1 of [ i(x+iy)^3 -1 ] / x+i(y+1)

expanding the cube leaves:
ix^3 -x^2y -iy^2x +y^3 -2x^2y -2ixy^2 / x+i(y+1)

From here, if I plug in x = 0 and y =1 simultaneously, i get 1 / 2i
which is not the result I expected, since plugging in i for z originally gave zero.
 
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You forgot the -1 at the end in the numerator
 
Ahhh, I did. Thank you. But aren't there many ways for x,y to approach 0,1 on the complex plane? Haven't I only checked one of these directions?
 
There are many ways, but I'm assuming you already know that polynomials are continuous on the complex numbers. Proving that polynomials are continuous would require an epsilon-delta proof. As an example of how this is done, look at z2 and prove that it is continuous:
[tex]|z^2-z_{0}^2| = |(z-z_0)^2 + 2zz_0 - 2z_{0}^2|\leq |z-z_0|^2 + 2z_0|z-z_0|[/tex]
In the complex plane what it means for 2 numbers to be close together is that |z-z0| is very small, so this is what we call delta in this context. There are two terms that we need to make sure are small, so let's make sure both contribute less than epsilon/2 by taking
[tex]\delta = min(\frac{1}{2},\frac{\epsilon}{2},\frac{\epsilon}{4z_0})[/tex]
(The half is in there to make sure [itex]\delta^2<\frac{\epsilon}{2}[/itex] when [itex]\epsilon>1[/itex])
so now
[tex]|z^2-z_{0}^2| \leq \frac{\epsilon}{2} + \frac{\epsilon}{2} = \epsilon[/tex]
 

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