Tangent planes and normal vectors

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The discussion revolves around finding points on the surface defined by the equation z = x³y² where the tangent plane is horizontal. Participants are exploring the relationship between the tangent plane and the normal vector in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conditions for a horizontal tangent plane, noting that the normal vector must be vertical. They explore the implications of the partial derivatives and the conditions under which they equal zero. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the derived equations and their significance.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the necessary conditions for the normal vector and exploring the implications of setting the partial derivatives to zero. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the variables, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the values derived.

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Participants note the challenge of not having specific points to evaluate the partial derivatives, which complicates their progress. There is also a mention of the need to consider multiple cases based on the conditions derived from the equations.

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Homework Statement



Find all points on the surface at which the tangent plane is horizontal

z=x3y2

Things I know:
Tangent plane is horizontal then therefore the normal must be vertical in order to be perpendicular.

Dot product of the tangent plane with normal is = 0

Normal plane is given by the partial with respect to x,y,z evaluated at some points P(x0,y0,z0)

Putting that together I get
f(x,y,z)=x3y2-z
fx=3x2y2
fy=2x3y
fz=-1

Here is where I am completely stuck I know that I still don't have a normal vector because I do not have any points to plug into the partials.



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Mdhiggenz said:

Homework Statement



Find all points on the surface at which the tangent plane is horizontal

z=x3y2

Things I know:
Tangent plane is horizontal then therefore the normal must be vertical in order to be perpendicular.

Dot product of the tangent plane with normal is = 0

Normal plane is given by the partial with respect to x,y,z evaluated at some points P(x0,y0,z0)

Putting that together I get
f(x,y,z)=x3y2-z
fx=3x2y2
fy=2x3y
fz=-1

Here is where I am completely stuck I know that I still don't have a normal vector because I do not have any points to plug into the partials.

Your original equation is of the form ##z = f(x,y)##. The tangent plane will be horizontal at any point ##(x,y,z)## where ##f_x(x,y)=0## and ##f_y(x,y)=0##.
 
Or, same thing, The vector you got, [itex]<3x^2y^2, 2x^3y, -1>[/itex] must be of the form <0, 0, a> to be vertical. Obviously we can take a= -1 but we need [itex]3x^2y^2= 0[/itex] and [itex]2x^3y= 0[/tex]. That will be true if x= 0 or if y= 0. In other words above the x and y axes.[/itex]
 
hmm, so I can equal them together, and get

x=(3/2)y and y=2/3x

Don't really understand what the values represent?
 

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