Tangental Velocity and Bicycle Wheel Radii

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the tangential speeds of the front and rear sprockets of a bicycle. The key equation used is w = v/r, where w is angular speed, v is tangential speed, and r is radius. The participants confirm that the tangential speeds of both sprockets must be equal to prevent the chain from stretching or bunching. This understanding clarifies the connection between the angular speed of the front sprocket and the required radius of the rear sprocket for a given tangential speed.

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  • Understanding of angular speed and tangential speed concepts
  • Familiarity with the equation w = v/r
  • Basic knowledge of bicycle mechanics, specifically sprockets and chains
  • Ability to visualize motion and speed relationships in mechanical systems
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  • Study the mechanics of bicycle gearing systems
  • Learn about angular velocity and its applications in physics
  • Explore the concept of chain tension and its effects on sprocket performance
  • Investigate the relationship between radius and speed in rotational motion
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Students studying physics, particularly in mechanics, bicycle enthusiasts, and anyone interested in understanding the dynamics of bicycle gearing systems.

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Hi guys,

This is the silliest thing. I actually solved problem and got the correct answer, but now I'm not sure that my logic was sound--or even what my logic really was!

1. Homework Statement


While riding a multispeed bicycle, the rider can select the radius of the rear sprocket that is fixed to the rear axle. The front sprocket of a bicycle has radius A cm. If the angular speed of the front sprocket is B rev/s , what is the radius of the rear sprocket for which the tangential speed of a point on the rim of the rear wheel will be C m/s ? The rear wheel has radius D m .

Homework Equations



Honestly, w=v/r is the only one that comes to mind.

The Attempt at a Solution


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I don't want to be overly specific about the my equations because this is a Mastering Physics question and I don't want to spoil it, but ultimately I solved it using the above equation and the idea that the tangental speed of the front sprocket and the tangental speed of the back sprocket are equal. Problem is silly me, I'm not sure why I assumed that and I've having trouble visualizing whether it's true. I know (well, think I know) that the centre of mass of both wheels must be moving with the same translational velocity (if that's the right term), so I think that's the idea I was getting at when I solved it, but I'm not really sure how that concept relates to tangental speed. I guess the meat of it is, I'm flummoxed by how the different kinds of speeds of the respective wheels relate to themselves and each other...I'm not sure if I'm making any sense, if anyone wants me to clarify or provide more details please let me know. Thanks for reading this!

D.
 
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sciencegem said:
Hi guys,

This is the silliest thing. I actually solved problem and got the correct answer, but now I'm not sure that my logic was sound--or even what my logic really was!

1. Homework Statement


While riding a multispeed bicycle, the rider can select the radius of the rear sprocket that is fixed to the rear axle. The front sprocket of a bicycle has radius A cm. If the angular speed of the front sprocket is B rev/s , what is the radius of the rear sprocket for which the tangential speed of a point on the rim of the rear wheel will be C m/s ? The rear wheel has radius D m .

Homework Equations



Honestly, w=v/r is the only one that comes to mind.

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
I don't want to be overly specific about the my equations because this is a Mastering Physics question and I don't want to spoil it, but ultimately I solved it using the above equation and the idea that the tangental speed of the front sprocket and the tangental speed of the back sprocket are equal. Problem is silly me, I'm not sure why I assumed that and I've having trouble visualizing whether it's true. I know (well, think I know) that the centre of mass of both wheels must be moving with the same translational velocity (if that's the right term), so I think that's the idea I was getting at when I solved it, but I'm not really sure how that concept relates to tangental speed. I guess the meat of it is, I'm flummoxed by how the different kinds of speeds of the respective wheels relate to themselves and each other...I'm not sure if I'm making any sense, if anyone wants me to clarify or provide more details please let me know. Thanks for reading this!

D.

The tangential speeds are the same because that's the rate at which the chain is passing over each sprocket. If the rates were different then the chain would be getting stretched or bunched up someplace. Agree?
 
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Dick said:
The tangential speeds are the same because that's the rate at which the chain is passing over each sprocket. If the rates were different then the chain would be getting stretched or bunched up someplace. Agree?

The chain! I totally forgot there even was a chain! Thank you very much. Makes sense now.
 

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