Taylor Development of f(x)=ln(1-x)

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The discussion revolves around finding a Taylor development for the function f(x) = ln(1-x) using the series expansion of the geometric series. Participants are exploring the relationship between derivatives of the function and the series representation.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive a Taylor series by calculating derivatives and expressing them in a summation form, while questioning the validity of starting the summation at n=1. Others suggest integrating the series representation of the derivative to find the Taylor expansion, noting the ease of their method compared to the original poster's approach.

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Participants are actively engaging with different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration of the series, and there is recognition of the limitations of the original poster's method. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches without a clear consensus.

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There are mentions of the interval of convergence for the series and concerns about uniform convergence when integrating the series, indicating that assumptions about convergence are being examined.

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Hi there. I have this exercise which I'm trying to solve now. It says:

Using that [tex]\displaystyle\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}x^n=(1-x)^{-1}[/tex] find one Taylor development for the function [tex]f(x)=\ln(1-x)[/tex]

So, I've made some derivatives:
[tex]f^1(x)=\displaystyle\frac{-1}{(1-x)},f^2(x)=\displaystyle\frac{-1}{(1-x)^2},f^3(x)=\displaystyle\frac{-2}{(1-x)^3},f^4(x)=\displaystyle\frac{-6}{(1-x)^4},f^5(x)=\displaystyle\frac{-24}{(1-x)^5}[/tex]

And then:

[tex]\displaystyle\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\displaystyle\frac{f^b(x_0)(x-x_0)^n}{n!}=-\displaystyle\frac{(x-x_0)}{(1-x_0)}-\displaystyle\frac{(x-x_0)^2}{2(1-x_0)^2}-\displaystyle\frac{2(x-x_0)^3}{6(1-x_0)^3}-\displaystyle\frac{6(x-x_0)^4}{24(1-x_0)^4}-\displaystyle\frac{24(x-x_0)^5}{120(1-x_0)^5}+\ldots+-\displaystyle\frac{(x-x_0)^n}{n(1-x_0)^n}[/tex]

I have two problems with this. In the first place, the general expression that I've found (which is probably wrong) doesn't work for n=0, it does for the others values of n. I thought of starting the summation at 1, but I'm not sure if this is valid. In the second place I don't know how to use the relation the problem gives at the beginning. I can see that I have (1-x_0) for every term, but I couldn't make it fit inside the summation.

So this is what I got: [tex]\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}-\displaystyle\frac{(x-x_0)^n}{n(1-x_0)^n}[/tex]

Bye there, thanks for your help and suggestions.
 
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What is [tex]\int \frac{1}{1-x} dx[/tex]?
 
The point of the exercise was probably the following. The first derivative gives:

[tex]f^\prime(x)=-(1-x)^{-1}[/tex].

So, using the relation, we get

[tex]f^\prime(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty}{x^n}[/tex].

Now, integrate both sides to get a Taylor expansion of f.

Now, the method outlined above is a lot easier than your method, since I don't have to make all that differentiations. But I still like your method more, since it gives a general answer, i.e. you've actually calculated the Taylor series with arbitrary x0, while my method only gives a Taylor series around 0...
 
f'(x)dx, thanks Sethric.

Thank you micromass, nice point. It actually gives an approximation only on the interval of convergence, which goes from -1<x<1, I think it's because this interval is where the function f'(x) is uniformly convergent, but I'm not sure about this. I mean, in the interval where its not uniformly convergent we can't integrate "inside" the summation, right?
 
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