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The discussion revolves around the Taylor expansion of the function (1+z)^n, where |z| < 1 and n is a complex number. Participants are exploring the implications of expanding this function and the complexities introduced by the variable n being complex.

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to begin the expansion and the implications of treating n as a complex number. Some share their attempts at the expansion and question how to handle the complex coefficients. Others inquire about the relationship between the current expansion and subsequent questions involving logarithmic functions.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking clarification on handling complex numbers in the expansion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of Taylor series in complex analysis, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to respect the helpers by providing clear work. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note constraints such as the requirement not to perform additional Taylor expansions for related questions and the need to find relationships between the current expansion and other mathematical expressions involving real numbers.

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Same as title.

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Taylor expansion.

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Okay - what?! I don't even know where to begin. I taylor expanded the function and pretended like n was just some number and that doesn't help. I've never learned this. How? Can you point me in some direction?
 
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Vitani11 said:
I taylor expanded the function and pretended like n was just some number and that doesn't help.
Why not? You should show the work you did.
 
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I assume that this is a problem from a complex analysis class.
I don't know what you used as the definition of a Taylor series (should have been shown in Relevant equations) or if you know how to take the derivatives of that analytic function.
If you take the derivatives of an analytic function and use the definition of the Taylor series, it should be valid within it's radius of convergence.
 
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Sorry if this is difficult to see (and sideways)

If you are serious about wanting help, you need to respect the helpers by typing out your solution.
 
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Okay. Sorry.

1+nz/1!+(n(n-1)z2)/2!+(n(n-1)(n-2)z3)/3!+(n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)z4)/4! is the expansion I get. I see the expansion for ez in there. What do I do about the complex parts (n?)
 
the complex parts of the expansion are n+n(n-1)+n(n-1)(n-2)+n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3) but they are all attached to a real coefficient Z so I can't split them. Do I need to generalize this pattern? because that is what my intuition tells me.
 
What bothers you about the complex parts? Are you in a complex analysis class?
 
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Mathematical physics - nothing bothers me about them I just need to know how to deal with them in an expansion.
 
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When dealing with a function of complex variables, you should expect the Taylor series expansion to have complex coefficients. n-1 is a perfectly fine complex number if n is complex. But you should change the notation because everyone will assume that n is a natural number.
 
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Yes I know. So I expanded the function, as the question asked, but the next question then is show ln(1+z) = z-z2/2+z3/3-z4/4 using the results from the expansion I just did (I am not aloud to Taylor expand). I can't see a relationship between the expansion I just did and that question because the expansion I just did involves complex numbers whereas the next question has none in there. This is what I mean by I need to find a way to deal with the complex part of the expansion. I'm just trying to find relationships.
 
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The best environment for Taylor series expansions are in complex numbers. Don't try to separate out the real and imaginary parts unless there is some unusual reason to.
n doesn't have to be complex, it just can be complex. You should be able to think of a value of n that is directly relates (1+z)n and ln(1+z).

I will not say more than that on a homework problem.
 
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Vitani11 said:
the complex parts of the expansion are n+n(n-1)+n(n-1)(n-2)+n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3) but they are all attached to a real coefficient Z so I can't split them. Do I need to generalize this pattern? because that is what my intuition tells me.

The algebra is exactly the same as it would be if ##n## were a real number. The fact are that standard algebra holds for complex quantities, so that if some or all of the quantities are complex the basic laws ##a+b = b+a##, ##ab = ba##, ##a(b+c) = ab + ac##, ##a+0=a##, ##a \times 1 = a##, ##1/(1/a) = a##, etc., etc. all hold.
 
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Got it. Thanks amigos
 

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