Taylor Series for f(x) = sin(x) at a = pi/2 | Power Series Expansion

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The discussion revolves around finding the Taylor series expansion for the function f(x) = sin(x) centered at a = pi/2. Participants explore the correct formulation of the series and the associated radius of convergence.

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  • Participants discuss the general formula for Taylor series and attempt to apply it to sin(x) at the specified point. There are questions about the correctness of initial attempts and the proper evaluation of derivatives at the center point.

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Several participants are actively engaging in correcting each other's misunderstandings regarding the Taylor series terms and their coefficients. There is a focus on ensuring that the series is expressed correctly, with some participants suggesting the need for more terms to identify a general pattern.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of the Taylor series formula, particularly in evaluating derivatives and their contributions to the series. Some participants mention the absence of a requirement for a closed form, while others suggest that it is typically expected.

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Find the Taylor series for f(x) centered at a. Assume power series expansion.
f(x) = sin(x) at a= pi/2

My answer ended up being the summation from n=0 to infinity of ((x-pi/2)^n ) / n!
And the radius of convergence is R=infinity

This is right ?
 
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No, that is not right. (In fact it looks like a series for e^{x-\pi/2}. If you show how you got that, we might be able to point out an error.
 
Oh yea I followed the example in the book for e^x that's probly why

So where do I start then? All I know about Taylor series stuff is:

F(x)= summation [ (f^n)(a)*(x-a)^n ] / n!



Ok well when I followed it in the book you have (f^n)(pi/2) = sin(pi/2) and then you put the a value which is pi/2 into the definition of a Taylor series so you get:

Summation [ sin(pi/2)(x-pi/2)^n ] / n!
 
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arl146 said:
Oh yea I followed the example in the book for e^x that's probly why

So where do I start then? All I know about Taylor series stuff is:

F(x)= summation [ (f^n)(a)*(x-a)^n ] / n!



Ok well when I followed it in the book you have (f^n)(pi/2) = sin(pi/2)
This is not true.
f(x) = sin(x), f(pi/2) = 1
f'(x) = cos(x), f'(pi/2) = 0
f''(x) = -sin(x), f''(pi/2) = -1
etc.
arl146 said:
and then you put the a value which is pi/2 into the definition of a Taylor series so you get:

Summation [ sin(pi/2)(x-pi/2)^n ] / n!
 
Ok so how does it go (I don't have my book with me)
It's like f(x) = f'(x)*(x-a) + f''(x)*(x-a)^2 + f'''(x)*(x-a)^3 + ... With the first part has 1! Under it, the second part has 2! Under it, and the third part had 4! Under it??

So you just plug in that stuff? Idk
 
It goes like this:
f(x) = f(a) + f'(a) * (x - a)/1! + f''(a) * (x - a)2/2! + f'''(a) * (x - a)3/3! + ... + f(n)(a) * (x - a)n/n! + ...
 
Oh yea I think that's what I meant!

So when you plug in values you get 1+0-1(((x-pi/2)^3)/2)+0+... right?
So it has (-1)^n. I don't really know what else the series would be... Umm I get this:

Summation n=0 to infinity: (-1)^n * ((x-pi/2)^(n+2)) / (n+2)!

Does that work?
 
arl146 said:
Oh yea I think that's what I meant!

So when you plug in values you get 1+0-1(((x-pi/2)^3)/2)+0+... right?
No, your exponent on the third term is wrong, and you should show more terms. With too few terms, you won't be able to get the general term correctly.

Make a table with the values for n, f(n)(x), and f(n)(\pi/2), similar to the one I did in post #4, but with more entries than I showed.
arl146 said:
So it has (-1)^n. I don't really know what else the series would be... Umm I get this:

Summation n=0 to infinity: (-1)^n * ((x-pi/2)^(n+2)) / (n+2)!

Does that work?
No.
 
oh, yea i meant this:

1+0-1(((x-pi/2)^2)/2)+0+... i just had a typo.


but okay, i did all the way up to f'''''''(x) and when you plug in the a value (pi/2) you get"
1, 0, -1, 0, 1, 0, -1, 0

i ended up getting: f(x) = 1 - (x-pi/2)2 / 2! + (x-pi/2)4 / 4! + (x-pi/2)6 / 6!

so i don't know what the series would be. all i know is (-1)n should be there.
 
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arl146 said:
oh, yea i meant this:

1+0-1(((x-pi/2)^2)/2)+0+... i just had a typo.


but okay, i did all the way up to f'''''''(x) and when you plug in the a value (pi/2) you get"
1, 0, -1, 0, 1, 0, -1, 0

i ended up getting: f(x) = 1 - (x-pi/2)2 / 2! + (x-pi/2)4 / 4! + (x-pi/2)6 / 6!

so i don't know what the series would be. all i know is (-1)n should be there.
That is the series (sort of), if you make a couple of corrections.
1) You have a sign error on the last term you show.
2) This is supposed to be an infinite series, so there is no last term. To indicate this, add "+ ..." after the last term you show.

With these corrections, that is your Taylor series for f(x) = sin(x). Does the series have to be shown in closed form (i.e., as a summation)? If so, you need to be able to identify the general term of the series.

Some things to note:
Only even degree terms show up. IOW, the exponents are 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, ... This means that the exponent should be 2n.
The terms alternate in sign. You can show this by having a factor of (-1)n or possibly (-1)n + 1.
 
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Yes I realize those corrections. Typo and the second is just me typing slower than I am thinking.

But it doesn't say if it had to be in closed form but I think that's how all the answers are so yea.

Ok so te answer is just summation (-1)^n * ((x-pi/2)^(2n))/(2n)! Right?
 
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Is my series in the last post at the end the correct answer?
 
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arl146 said:
Yes I realize those corrections. Typo and the second is just me typing slower than I am thinking.

But it doesn't say if it had to be in closed form but I think that's how all the answers are so yea.

OK so the answer is just summation (-1)^n * ((x-pi/2)^(2n))/(2n)! Right?

WolframAlpha says that's sin(x) .
 
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Cool awesome, that's what I wanted!
 

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