Taylor Series, working backwards

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The discussion revolves around identifying the rational function represented by a given power series, specifically 2 - (2/3)x + (2/9)x^2 - (2/27)x^3, in the context of Taylor Series. Participants explore the relationship between the series and the Taylor Series equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to reverse-engineer the power series to find the corresponding rational function. There are attempts to relate the coefficients of the series to derivatives at a point, and some participants suggest recognizing familiar series forms, such as the geometric series.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the geometric series and hints to express the series in a recognizable form. Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations and methods without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on not wanting direct answers but rather hints or methods to approach the problem. Participants also note the alternating signs in the series and how that affects their approach to finding the function.

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Homework Statement


Okay, first there is an explanation of the Taylor Series equation. This I don't have a problem with. Then, we have this:

Consider the power series 2 - (2/3)x + (2/9)x^2 - (2/27)x^3. What rational
function does this power series represent?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I basically am just stuck at the end. I do understand how this function relates to the Taylor Series equation and wrote a detailed explanation of what parts represent a, i, f(a), f'(a), etc. However, after solving and presenting this information:

f(a) = 2
f'(a) = -2/3
f''(a) = 4/9
f'''(a) = -12/27

I don't know how to sort of reverse it and find the relevant function. I know that the numerator is being multiplied by -1, then -2, then -3, and the denominator is being multiplied by 3, but how does one take that information and turn it into equations?

I don't want the answer - I just want a hint in the right direction, or a method by which I can find it. Thank you guys.
 
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Think about what function you series represents. Start by writing your series as a sum which will help you recognize any common Maclaurin series in your sum.
 
tinylights said:

Homework Statement


Okay, first there is an explanation of the Taylor Series equation. This I don't have a problem with. Then, we have this:

Consider the power series 2 - (2/3)x + (2/9)x^2 - (2/27)x^3. What rational
function does this power series represent?

Homework Equations

/

The Attempt at a Solution



I basically am just stuck at the end. I do understand how this function relates to the Taylor Series equation and wrote a detailed explanation of what parts represent a, i, f(a), f'(a), etc. However, after solving and presenting this information:

f(a) = 2
f'(a) = -2/3
f''(a) = 4/9
f'''(a) = -12/27

I don't know how to sort of reverse it and find the relevant function. I know that the numerator is being multiplied by -1, then -2, then -3, and the denominator is being multiplied by 3, but how does one take that information and turn it into equations?

I don't want the answer - I just want a hint in the right direction, or a method by which I can find it. Thank you guys.

If you put u=(-1/3)*x then it looks like your series is 2*(u^0+u^1+u^2+u^3+...). Look familiar, enuf hints?
 
It actually doesn't. I am still flummoxed. :|
 
tinylights said:
It actually doesn't. I am still flummoxed. :|

Look up "geometric series".
 
Okay, so - a geometric sequence is represented by (1+r+r^2+r^3+r^4...) and can be expressed in the form 1/(1-r), so basically I have 2(1+u+u^2+u^3+u^4), which can equivalently be expressed in the form 2/(1-u). U = 1/3x, so we end up with 2/(1-1/3x)?

The answer seems to check out so I'll go with it. Thanks very much!
 
tinylights said:
Okay, so - a geometric sequence is represented by (1+r+r^2+r^3+r^4...) and can be expressed in the form 1/(1-r), so basically I have 2(1+u+u^2+u^3+u^4), which can equivalently be expressed in the form 2/(1-u). U = 1/3x, so we end up with 2/(1-1/3x)?

The answer seems to check out so I'll go with it. Thanks very much!

Your series alternates signs. u=(1/3)x doesn't. How should you change it?
 
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Ahhh, you're right! Realized that as I was checking my work. It should be -1/3x.
 

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