Technological development required for uploading

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of technological development required for uploading consciousness into a virtual environment. Participants explore theoretical implications, potential technologies, and the feasibility of such advancements within the realms of nanotechnology and artificial intelligence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that uploading consciousness could lead to immortality and the ability to inhabit both virtual and physical worlds, proposing the use of intelligent nano-assemblers and a 'USB transducer' for this purpose.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of nanotech scanners that could create an artificial copy of the brain while reinforcing the original, assuming consciousness is a product of biology.
  • A different viewpoint expresses skepticism about the practicality of replacing biological brains with artificial intelligence, questioning the feasibility of required hardware specifications.
  • Some participants reference existing research and advancements in technology that may align with these futuristic concepts, while others caution against relying on speculative sources.
  • Concerns are raised about the credibility of certain claims regarding AI and nanotechnology, with suggestions to refer to more reputable scientific literature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of enthusiasm for the possibilities of uploading consciousness and skepticism regarding the current state of technology and the plausibility of such ideas. There is no consensus on the feasibility or desirability of the proposed technologies.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in current nanotechnology and AI capabilities, as well as the speculative nature of some claims made in the discussion. There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and implications of concepts like artificial general intelligence (AGI).

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..just extrapolating from augmented reality..the next step would be uploading..it offers the prospect of immortality, the ability to now inhabit two worlds..the virtual and physical...the ability for light-speed travel..if your mind can be faxed around and combined with intelligent nano-assemblers and the equivalent of a 'USB transducer'..if people understand what I mean, the ability to transform into any machine, any object (just like the duex ex machina 'face' in the matrix movie)...so that people can have fun in the physical reality by becoming anything... Perhaps they might one day even be able to mess around with space-time...

Certainly in the virtual reality..inventing any kind of reality for yourself is possible..


If I were a computer scientist or engineer, I would probably be striving towards developing technologies that would enable this. What would be the kind of software and hardware techs that would need to be worked on?
 
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If nanotech scanners/ 'brain rebuilders' were introduced into the brain, they would float around, scanning the topology and then would creating an arificial copy in place and destroy the original or simply reinforce the original in order to render it indestructible..

if this were done all over the brain and an additional component were added that served as an interface to the virtual world..you would gotten there..

This is all assuming consciousness is purely product of biology..

ok..maybe this topic belongs in the AI forum...how do you shift it there?
 
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This sounds like a pretty far fetched idea.

I'm not sure people would want to replace their brains with artificial intelligence and I am sure that nobody could even begin to tell you what hardware specs would be required to do such a thing anyways.

I think you need to lay off the science fiction for a while. ;)

-Phil
 
Right..yeah I can easily see how this could seem crackpot like..

just read about uploading and read about this
www.natasha.cc/primo.htm

and thought it sounded cool.
 
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Right..yeah I can easily see how this could seem crackpot like..

just read about uploading and read about this
www.natasha.cc/primo.htm

and thought it sounded cool.

This looks a lot like futuristic scientific theory. In the 50's they envisioned flying cars by the 80's.

I wouldn't put much stock in this. Nanotechnology is nowhere near where it needs to be to do this sort of thing. Also, the author seems to have a misconception of what "AI" actually is. So the author makes up "AGI." Then they define "AGI" how AI really is.. This doesn't give the paper much credibility.. The person doesn't even understand what AI is.

I suggest you look at where nanotechnology and AI research is right now and where they predict it will be in the future so that you can draw your own conclusions. I wouldn't use sites like this in your research though if I were you. Maybe you should look for some MIT white papers or some other scientific community publishing.
 
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Please be careful not to get so close to crackpottery in the general technical forums, CuriousArv. That is generally not permitted here on the PF. I'm going to move this to General Discussion, and run it past the other Mentors to be sure it's still okay to leave up in GD.
 

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