Technologies for creating a pointer

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and potential technologies for creating effective pointers for directing attention to distant objects, particularly in daylight conditions. Participants explore various theoretical and practical approaches, including the use of lasers, augmented reality, and other innovative solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that laser pointers are less effective in daylight and proposes the use of augmented reality (AR) headsets or other technologies to improve visibility.
  • Another participant proposes using a photo or CCTV camera to direct attention to a specific location on an image, suggesting the potential for an app to facilitate this.
  • A participant recalls a presentation technique used by a forest ranger, which involved visual aids to highlight features in the landscape, noting its effectiveness.
  • One participant challenges the effectiveness of visual aids for pointing out indistinct targets, such as a specific window in an apartment complex, and raises concerns about moving targets.
  • Another participant humorously suggests the idea of using a device that could shoot lightning as a pointer, while acknowledging the dangers associated with such a method.
  • There is a proposal to use mobile phones equipped with sensors to superimpose targets on camera images, allowing audience members to aim their devices at the designated object.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and suggestions without reaching a consensus. There are competing views on the effectiveness of various pointing methods and technologies, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on specific technologies that may not be readily available, as well as unresolved questions about the practicality and safety of proposed methods.

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Hi

I am not sure if this is the right Place to ask this question, but there is no board here on exploratory engineering.

Laser pointers are great for pointing out something if the spectators know the general direction they should be looking at. Lasers are better when it's dark than light since then you can see the beam more easily. Heck, during night the viewers may not even need to be told beforehand in which direction they should be looking since the beam is visible.

However, let's say I want to point at something very far away, and it's during the day. Let's say I have to point out a specific mountain peak or a specific window on a building. Heck, my hand is probably not steady enough, so I'll need a machine to do it for me.

What can I use to make the pointer? A really strong laser is probably not a good solution in this case. An AR headset With something like a video game HUD could work. However, I want to know what else can be used. I am not asking about something that is available off the shelf right now; I am rather just curious about how physics and Technology can be used to solve this particular problem.
 
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Take a photo or point a CCTV camera at it and point to the place on the image where you want to direct their attention.

Perhaps there should be an app for this. Perhaps someone knows of an app that can be used already.
 
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@.Scott gave good advice. I'm reminded of a forest ranger's presentation at Zion National Park. The audience was seated outside looking at some mountain peaks in the background. The ranger used visual aids (I think printed, but it could have been a screen) to point out specific features close up. It was a very effective presentation technique.
 
Hmm, yeah, but that doesn't work well in all instances; While it works for the mountain peak, it doesn't really work for my example of a specific window; The window I was visualizing when I wrote that wasn't a distinctive one. I was thinking of a window of an apartment complex.

Also, what if the target is moving?

So, I am thinking of something that would be nearly as efficient as a laser with a visible beam or a video game HUD. Heck, even something that could shoot lightning With precision would work (With the disadvantage that it could damage the target).
 
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or a video game HUD.
Yes, have your audience members wear Google Glass...

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If you ionise the air, possibly with a UV laser, you might then launch a lightning strike pointer. It would be noisy, cause EMI, and be very dangerous in the wrong hands. Call it Thor after the Norse god.

Maybe replace all live rounds in an ammunition clip with a tracer that burns or melts in about one second. It could trail white smoke during the day or burn bright enough to be seen at night. Maybe dry ice with glycol that melts in flight.

You cannot “draw” on clear air unless you can fog it with smoke. For distant objects you must eliminate parallax by fogging in depth at some distance from the group. Fog will obstruct vision.

So it comes down to mobile phones with triaxial accelerometers and magnetic sensors that super impose a target on the camera image. The orientation of the demonstrator's phone with fixed cross hairs is broadcast, to the crowd's phones, who then centre the target by aiming their phone.
 
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