Temperature fluctuations in helium

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The discussion centers on conducting an experiment on second sound in superfluid helium, specifically measuring the 'normal fluid fraction' using a heater and AC current. The phenomenon of second sound propagating at twice the frequency of the applied current is highlighted, with references to the instantaneous power equation V(t)*I(t) from the PF Insights article on AC Power Analysis. The relationship between in-phase voltage and current leading to double the fundamental frequency is established as a key concept in understanding this behavior.

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I'm about to do an experiment on second sound in superfluid helium. Reading the lab manual it says we will generate it by putting a heater into the fluid and then passed an AC current through it. What we are going to measure is apparently the 'normal fluid fraction', which I guess under the two fluids model is the non-superfluid part. Weird thing: there's a casual mention that it should propagate away at twice the frequency of our current! Why would that happen?? I was trying to find some equations that would describe this behaviour but I can't, or at least those on the internet are way beyond me.

Thanks for any help! :)
 
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See the PF Insights article, AC Power Analysis: Part 1, Basics

From the article, V(t)*I(t) is the instantaneous power. When V and I are in-phase, V*I is double the fundamental frequency.

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Your experiment sounds like fun.
 
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anorlunda said:
See the PF Insights article, AC Power Analysis: Part 1, Basics

From the article, V(t)*I(t) is the instantaneous power. When V and I are in-phase, V*I is double the fundamental frequency.

in-phase.jpg


Your experiment sounds like fun.
I see, thank you! Yeah, it'll be a good experiment I think. In particular looking forward to using lots of liquid nitrogen, the safety briefing was just packed with interesting ways to go wrong!
 

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