Temperature in Space: Is There Really None?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of temperature in space, particularly questioning whether temperature can exist in the absence of particles and how it relates to energy differences between objects. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding temperature and energy in a vacuum.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the existence of temperature in space, suggesting that without particles, temperature cannot be defined.
  • Another participant explains that temperature is related to the kinetic energy of atoms and mentions that space has a very low density of atoms, estimating a temperature of about 10 K in certain regions.
  • A further inquiry is made about whether the space surrounding atoms possesses heat or if it is merely empty space through which radiation travels.
  • Another participant asserts that radiation carries energy and thus can be associated with heat, noting that the coldest temperature in space is approximately 2.7 K, attributed to cosmic microwave background radiation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition and existence of temperature in space, with some arguing that temperature can exist due to radiation, while others question the applicability of temperature in a near-vacuum environment. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference varying conditions in space, such as the presence of atoms and the influence of cosmic microwave background radiation, but do not resolve the implications of these factors on the concept of temperature.

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is there temperature in space?

if there are no particles, how can there be temperature?

and how can there be no temperature...temperature is the differnce in energy between objects? right...


thanks
 
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Well temperature of matter reflects the kinetic energy (vibration or translational motion) of atoms. More generally it is related to the energy density of a material.

In space IIRC, the temperature is generally given about =<10 K, and perhaps that is more the case way out by the gas planets or toward Uranus and beyond.

There are atoms out there in space, by the density is extremely low, about one to a few atoms/cc.

http://cassfos02.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/ISM.html
 
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does the space around those atoms have heat? or is it just...empty space, where radiation goes through
 
The radiation itself has energy, and thus heat. The coldest you'll get out in the far reaches of space (read: far from any heat source such as a sun) is about 2.7K, the temperature of the cosmic microwave background radiation.
 

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