Tension and acceleration of a pulley sytem attached to a block

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a pulley system with a block and a disc-like wheel. The participants are exploring the concepts of tension in the rope and the acceleration of the block, considering the forces and torques involved in the system.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are discussing the relationship between tension, gravitational force, and the rotational dynamics of the wheel. There is an exploration of torque equations and their application to the problem, with some questioning how to integrate angular momentum concepts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the relevant equations for torque and angular momentum. There is an ongoing exploration of how to relate the forces acting on the block to the rotational motion of the wheel, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as posed, including the mass of the block and the wheel, as well as the assumption of a massless and inextensible cord. There is a noted uncertainty regarding the application of torque equations and their implications for the system's dynamics.

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A 10kg block is attached to a massless cord that doesn't stretch or sag which is wrapped around a disc-like wheel for which m=5kg, I=(1/2)mR^2. If the block is allowed to drop straight down held back only by the rotation of the wheel
a) What is the tension in the rope
b) What is the acceleration of the block

I know that the tension isn't just F=mg and so am thinking it is combined with the mass of the block but don't know how to go about it
 
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Consider the torque on the wheel.

What equations do you know for Torque?
 
I know that torque = r x F or rFsintheta
i think it needs to use the ones related to angular momentum where torque= dL/dt= Id omega/ dt= I alpha
there was a similar question but it just said the things and didnt really progress or confirm if it was right
 
emmaemma08 said:
I know that torque = r x F or rFsintheta
i think it needs to use the ones related to angular momentum where torque= dL/dt= Id omega/ dt= I alpha
there was a similar question but it just said the things and didnt really progress or confirm if it was right

OK. So you have

T = F * R = I * α

m*g*R = 1/2*M*R2 * α

but α = a/R

So ... m*g = 1/2*M*a
 

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