Tension in a Pendulum String - Oh my

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The discussion revolves around a pendulum problem involving a 0.030 kg mass attached to a 0.42 m long massless string, released from a 25° angle from the vertical. Participants are exploring how to calculate the tension in the string at the release point.

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  • Participants discuss different approaches to calculating tension, including the use of forces acting on the pendulum mass. Some question whether the tension can be zero at the release point, while others clarify that the net force must account for gravitational forces.

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There are multiple interpretations of the forces acting on the pendulum. Some participants have provided calculations for tension based on different assumptions, and there is ongoing verification of these approaches without a clear consensus on the correct method.

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Participants are working under the constraint of having limited attempts to solve the problem, which adds pressure to ensure their reasoning and calculations are accurate.

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So I have one attempt left and want to make sure my answer is correct, so double checking me would be super awesome!

You are given a pendulum composed of a 0.030 kg mass on the end of a 0.42 m long massless string. The pendulum is moved 25° from the vertical and released. Find the tension in the string when the mass is at the release point,
θ = 25°.

Tsin(65)-mg=0
Tsin(65)=mg
T=.32 N

This is one solution I came up with.

The other option I am unsure of is if the T force would be 0 because "there is no net force directed along the axis that is perpendicular to the motion. Since the motion of the object is momentarily paused, there is no need for a centripetal force." -http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/waves/u10l0c.cfm

Thanks for the guidance.
 
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The centripetal force is indeed zero in the extreme position. However this does not imply T=0.
The net force along the radial direction should be zero. And this net force includes gravity's contribution as well.

The first "option" is not good because the body's acceleration along the vertical direction is not zero.
 
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So,
Fradial= -T + mgsin(65)
T=mgsin(65)
T=.27 N
 
So I have one attempt left and want to make sure my answer is correct, so double checking me would be super awesome!

You are given a pendulum composed of a 0.030 kg mass on the end of a 0.42 m long massless string. The pendulum is moved 25° from the vertical and released. Find the tension in the string when the mass is at the release point,
θ = 25°.


"The centripetal force is indeed zero in the extreme position. However this does not imply T=0.
The net force along the radial direction should be zero. And this net force includes gravity's contribution as well."--nasu




So,
Fradial= -T + mgsin(65)
T=mgsin(65)
T=.27 N
 
Engineering101 said:
So I have one attempt left and want to make sure my answer is correct, so double checking me would be super awesome!

You are given a pendulum composed of a 0.030 kg mass on the end of a 0.42 m long massless string. The pendulum is moved 25° from the vertical and released. Find the tension in the string when the mass is at the release point,
θ = 25°.


"The centripetal force is indeed zero in the extreme position. However this does not imply T=0.
The net force along the radial direction should be zero. And this net force includes gravity's contribution as well."--nasu




So,
Fradial= -T + mgsin(65)
T=mgsin(65)
T=.27 N

It is correct.

ehild
 

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