Tension on a Rope if used to Accelerate a car?

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The problem involves determining the displacement of a car that travels a specified distance in two different directions: first 100 km west and then 95 km southwest. The task requires calculating both the magnitude and direction of the car's overall displacement from the starting point.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the breakdown of vector components into horizontal and vertical directions, with some expressing confusion about adding vectors without a clear angle. Others suggest visualizing the vectors as triangles and using trigonometric relationships to find the components of the southwest vector.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on interpreting the vectors and suggested methods for calculating the components. There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the problem, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes a misunderstanding regarding the interpretation of "southwest" as a specific angle, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the concepts involved, highlighting their status as a beginner in physics.

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Homework Statement



A car is driven 100 km west and then 95 km southwest. What is the displacement of the car from the point of origin (magnitude and direction)?

________ km
________ ° south of west

Homework Equations



none? I apologize if I am overlooking any equation, but there are no equations that I know of that can help when adding vectors. Perhaps the Pythagorean theorem in some cases.

The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't understand how to add this type of vector. Generally with vectors I separate them into their horizontal and vertical components, but in this case there is no angle given really..so I think that would be impossible. (Sine/Cosine won't work without an angle!)

Thank you so much for your patience with me! I'm afraid I don't understand the concept very well...this is my first physics class, and my only knowledge of Physics is self-taught.
 
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You already have your components, east-west can be thought of as an x compoonent and north-south as a y component.
 
Tension on a rope? Is that another question or something?

Anyway, as far as vectors go, just think of them as triangles. For the first part the car is driven 100km west, so that is easy, and you can represent it as -100i (given that you make east and north positive). Then when the car drives 95 km southwest the car has a vector component that is west, and a vector component that is south.

Looking at the second part as a triangle, you have the 95km southwest as the hypotenuse, and so the west and south parts will be the legs. The triangle has an angle of 45 degrees, since southwest is 45 degrees south of west (or you could at it as 45 degrees west of south). So if you use trigonometry then you will figure out what the length of the legs are. Hint: they should be equal, and one will point in the -i (west) direction while another points in the -j (south) direction.

Add the like components, you have two that are pointed in the -i direction (west), and one pointed in the -j direction (south). Once you have the components added up you are back to having two legs. At this point I think you will see that this makes another triangle you can piece together with trig, and will be the triangle you are looking for.
 
Sorry about the faulty title-I tried to go back and edit it after clicking "Submit" but the Edit Feature doesn't allow you to change the Subject Title

Mindscrape: Thank you so much for your help! I didn't realize that "southwest" could be read as 45 degrees-I thought it was just a vague direction! (Sounds silly...I know.) I am indebted to your assitance! Thanks a ton! o:)
 

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