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waynexk8
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tension or is it to hard to work out with physics ?
Hi there, I have posted somthing the same, however new evedence has come up.
Some say the force thus tension on the muscles has the same average, let's just say for now the force thus tensions are the same. We are using say the bench press, and useing 80% of a persons rep. max. }so the persons max. strength/force = 100 pounds} call it 80 pounds moving the weight 1m up and 1m down, on 1 rep at 3/3{3 seconds up and 3 seconds down} = 6 seconds and 6 reps at .5/.5 {half a second up and half a second down = 6 seconds and/or 4 reps at 3/3 = 24 seconds and 24 reps at .5/.5 = 24 seconds.
Now I thought of a crude test, a clay test, you put a peace of clay between your hand and the weight, and 99.9 of the people would say that after you did the rep/s you would flatten out the clay far far far more with the faster reps, as of the higher peak forces, higher high forces and speed.
Shall we say these are the rough forces per one fifth of each rep, and I will leave out the peak forces for now. And as you knowe the faster rep will need a longer time to deccelerate for the change in direction from posative to negative reps.
Fast rep,
100, 100, 100, 80, 20.
Slow reps,
80, 80, 80, 80, 80.
HOWEVER, some say as both reps have an average force, the overall force thus tension in the end will average out and be the same, but my problem is I think diffrent, as why does not the both reps average out the flattening of the clay in the end ! If you see my point, as the faster reps will flatten the clay much more than the slow reps, thus there is more force/tension with the fast rep/s. As you know all to well the faster reps have much more of a power {work energy} in them.
Wayne
Hi there, I have posted somthing the same, however new evedence has come up.
Some say the force thus tension on the muscles has the same average, let's just say for now the force thus tensions are the same. We are using say the bench press, and useing 80% of a persons rep. max. }so the persons max. strength/force = 100 pounds} call it 80 pounds moving the weight 1m up and 1m down, on 1 rep at 3/3{3 seconds up and 3 seconds down} = 6 seconds and 6 reps at .5/.5 {half a second up and half a second down = 6 seconds and/or 4 reps at 3/3 = 24 seconds and 24 reps at .5/.5 = 24 seconds.
Now I thought of a crude test, a clay test, you put a peace of clay between your hand and the weight, and 99.9 of the people would say that after you did the rep/s you would flatten out the clay far far far more with the faster reps, as of the higher peak forces, higher high forces and speed.
Shall we say these are the rough forces per one fifth of each rep, and I will leave out the peak forces for now. And as you knowe the faster rep will need a longer time to deccelerate for the change in direction from posative to negative reps.
Fast rep,
100, 100, 100, 80, 20.
Slow reps,
80, 80, 80, 80, 80.
HOWEVER, some say as both reps have an average force, the overall force thus tension in the end will average out and be the same, but my problem is I think diffrent, as why does not the both reps average out the flattening of the clay in the end ! If you see my point, as the faster reps will flatten the clay much more than the slow reps, thus there is more force/tension with the fast rep/s. As you know all to well the faster reps have much more of a power {work energy} in them.
Wayne