Tension problem involving picture frame

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a picture frame suspended by two wires at equal angles to the vertical. The problem requires determining the angle when the tension in each wire is 0.75 times the weight of the frame, while neglecting friction between the wall and the frame.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss breaking down the tension into vertical and horizontal components, questioning how these components interact and cancel each other out. There are attempts to clarify the relationships between the angles and the components of tension.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the relationships between the components of tension and the weight of the frame. There is ongoing exploration of how to find the angle θ, with various interpretations of the components being discussed. No explicit consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem specifies the wires make the same angle with the vertical and that the tension is a fraction of the weight. There is an emphasis on understanding the net vertical component in relation to the weight of the frame.

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A picture frame hung against a wall is suspended by two wires attached to its upper corners.

If the two wires make the same angle with the vertical, what must this angle be if the tension in each wire is equal to 0.75 of the weight of the frame? (Neglect any friction between the wall and the picture frame.)

I have no idea what to do except for to draw a free body diagram.
 
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Find the vertical and horizontal components of both the tensions.
Horizontal components cancel each other. Net horizontal components = ...?
 
the X components would be cos[tex]\theta[/tex]*.75 ?You mean the vertical components cancel each other out right?
 
Chandasouk said:
the X components would be cos[tex]\theta[/tex]*.75 ?


You mean the vertical components cancel each other out right?
Sorry. I mean net vertical component.
If θ is the angle of T with vertical, then check the x component.
What is y component?
 
Sin[tex]\theta[/tex]*.75 ?

If I broke the tension into components, I get a triangle with theta above the horizontal
 
In the problem it is stated that "If the two wires make the same angle with the vertical'
If you call this angle as θ, then
vertical component is T*cosθ and horizontal component is T*sinθ.
Horizontal components are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. Hence they cancel each other.
The net vertical component is the weight of the frame.
 
okay, I understand that now, but how do I find the angle? The tension on both wires are .75 of the weight, so could I substitute

vertical component is .75w*cosθ
 
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Two vertical components are there. Find net vertical component and equate it to the weight of the frame w. And solve for θ.
 

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