Testing Linearity of Two Given Systems

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around testing the linearity of two given differential systems. Participants explore the definitions and criteria for linearity in the context of differential equations, examining the implications of the equations provided.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of "linearity" in relation to differential equations and asks for clarification on permissible operations on variables and their derivatives.
  • Another participant attempts to demonstrate the linearity of the first system by applying the superposition principle and deriving a combined equation, suggesting that the system is linear.
  • A later reply agrees with the participant's reasoning but notes that while the system is linear, it is not time-invariant, which introduces a distinction between linearity and linear time-invariance (LTI).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the classification of the first system as linear or non-linear, with some participants asserting it is linear while others reference a solution that claims it is not linear.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of time invariance on the classification of the systems, and there may be differing interpretations of the definitions involved.

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Students and educators interested in differential equations, particularly in understanding linearity and its implications in system analysis.

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Homework Statement



Two system are given as follows :-

(a) [itex]\frac{dy}{dt}[/itex] + sin(t)y(t) = [itex]\frac{df}{dt} + 2f(t)[/itex]

(b) [itex]\frac{dy}{dt}[/itex] + 2y(t) = f(t)*[itex]\frac{df}{dt}[/itex]

Test linearity of systems.


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So the question is basically to determine if each represents a linear or a non-linear system.

Tell us what you know or don't know. What type of things are you allowed do to the variables and their derivatives in order for it to be linear system? What are some things you can't do if you want to preserve linearity?
 
Main point, do you know what "linearity" means for differential equations?
 
My attempt to the solution.

(a) dy/dt + sin(t)y(t) = df/dt + 2f(t)

If input is f1(t) , output is y1(t).
dy1/dt + sin(t)y1(t) = df1/dt + 2f1(t) -> eqn 1

If input is f2(t) , output is y2(t)
dy2/dt + sin(t)y(t) = df2/dt + 2f2(t) -> eqn2

Now system would be linear if input is k1f1(t) and output is k1y1(t).

Let input be k1f1(t) , k2f2(t).

d(k1y1(t) + k2y2(t))/dt + sin(t)(k1y1(t) + k2y2(t)) = d(k1f1(t) + k2f2(t))/dt + (k1f1(t) + k2f2(t)). -> 3

eqn 3 is k1*eqn1 + k2*eqn2 so System is linear. The solution says System is not linear. Why ?
 
mym786 said:
My attempt to the solution.
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eqn 3 is k1*eqn1 + k2*eqn2 so System is linear. The solution says System is not linear. Why ?

That's good. Your answer is correct, it is a linear system. It's not time invariant (therefore not LTI) but it is linear.
 

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