Textbook for understanding thermodynamics

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks on thermodynamics and statistical mechanics, particularly those that emphasize mathematical physics and theoretical aspects rather than practical applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a clear and concise textbook for a second course in thermodynamics and statistical mechanics, emphasizing a mathematical approach.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on whether the recommendations are for physics, mechanical engineering, or chemistry.
  • A participant specifies the focus on physics, preferring theoretical and mathematical content over applications.
  • Several textbooks are suggested, including Kittel, H. B. Callen's "Thermodynamics and an Introduction to Statistical Physics," and F. Reif's "Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics."
  • One participant advises against using Atkins, citing issues with the depth of derivations leading to a lack of understanding.
  • Additional resources are mentioned, including Richard Fitzpatrick's site and Kardar's book, which includes sections on thermodynamics.
  • Links to various textbooks and resources are provided for further exploration.

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Participants express differing opinions on specific textbooks, with some recommending certain authors while others caution against them. No consensus on a single best textbook emerges from the discussion.

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Participants' recommendations depend on their individual experiences and preferences, and there may be varying definitions of what constitutes a clear or concise textbook.

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I'm taking a second course in thermodynamics and statmech, but it has always been a subject I have found unintuitive. Could anyone recommend a clear, concise textbook with a strong emphasis on mathematics/ mathematical physics? Thank you for any suggestions.
 
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For physics? Mechanical engineering? Chemistry?
 
for physics, leaning more towards the theoretical/mathematical side than applications, if possible.
 
Kittel?
 
Also the book by Ira Levine is quite good. Don't try Atkins in my opinion. Atkins does "half-derivations" which left me with a "half-understanding" of concepts.
 
As an introduction my favorite is

H. B. Callen, Thermodynamics and an Introduction to Statistical Physics

A standard advanced textbook is

F. Reif, Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics

A very good one is also

C. M Van Vliet, Equilibrium and Non-Equilibrium Statistical Mechanics

Also vol. V of Landau and Lifshitz is highly recommendable. Also Vols. IX and X on quantum equilibrium and kinetic theory (transport equations), respectively, are excellent.
 

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