Textbook 'The Physics of Waves': Reason to force us to consider complex solution for harmonic motion?

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The discussion centers on the necessity of considering complex solutions for harmonic motion as outlined in "The Physics of Waves." It references a breakdown of time translation in the textbook that leads to the conclusion that complex solutions are required. However, it questions why one cannot simply use the property of irreducible solutions without resorting to complex formalism. The text argues that while complex solutions may simplify the process, they are not strictly necessary. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the implications of complex values in the context of simple harmonic motion.
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TL;DR Summary: The reason to force us consider complex solution for harmonic motion.

Reference textbook “The Physics of Waves” in MIT website:
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/8-03sc-...es-fall-2016/resources/mit8_03scf16_textbook/

Chapter 1 - Section 1.3 (see attached file)

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In (1.40), it breaks down the time translation from pi/omega to pi/2omega + pi/2omega; and concludes the square of h(pi/2omega) implying that we need to consider complex solution.

However, what prevents us use the property of irreducible solution and adopt

z(t+pi/omega) = h(pi/omega)z(t)

directly? (And this does not force us to use complex solution!)
 
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You do not need to use the complex formalism. It is just easier.
 
brettng said:
TL;DR Summary: The reason to force us consider complex solution for harmonic motion.

Reference textbook “The Physics of Waves” in MIT website:
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/8-03sc-...es-fall-2016/resources/mit8_03scf16_textbook/

In (1.40), it breaks down the time translation from pi/omega to pi/2omega + pi/2omega; and concludes the square of h(pi/2omega) implying that we need to consider complex solution.

However, what prevents us use the property of irreducible solution and adopt

z(t+pi/omega) = h(pi/omega)z(t)

directly? (And this does not force us to use complex solution!)


From page 11 of the book:
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It is easy to see that a function ##z(t)## that satisfies (1.38) cannot be a real-valued function for all ##t## if there exists a value of ##a## such that ##h(a)## is complex. The author shows on page 12 of the book that if ##z(t)## obeys (1.38) and if ##z(t)## is a solution of the equation of motion for simple harmonic motion (SHM), then ##h(a)## is imaginary for ##a = \pi/(2\omega)##.
 
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