Textbooks for Electromagnetics, Dielectrics, Magnetic field and Polarisation

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks and resources on electromagnetics, dielectrics, magnetic fields, and polarization, particularly aimed at a graduate student with limited background knowledge in these areas. The scope includes both foundational and advanced materials suitable for understanding the concepts and applications in electrical engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for textbooks or references to improve their understanding of electromagnetics, dielectrics, magnetic fields, and polarization due to a lack of background knowledge.
  • Another participant suggests that recommendations would vary based on the specific focus of the project, such as solid state physics versus wave propagation simulations.
  • Several links to online resources and textbooks are provided, including classical texts and lecture notes, with a suggestion to choose one based on personal preference.
  • It is mentioned that Jackson's "Classical Electrodynamics" is a standard graduate-level textbook for physicists, but may not be the best starting point for someone with minimal background.
  • Participants recommend starting with undergraduate texts such as Cheng's "Field and Wave Electromagnetics," Ida's "Engineering Electromagnetics," and others before tackling more advanced materials.
  • There is a caution that mastering electromagnetics quickly may not be feasible, and that effort will be required to gain proficiency.
  • One participant suggests visiting the university library to explore various textbooks in the engineering electromagnetics section to find suitable resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for foundational knowledge before advancing to graduate-level texts, but there is no consensus on a single best resource, as recommendations vary based on individual needs and project focus.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of understanding the specific nature of the project to tailor textbook recommendations effectively. There is also an acknowledgment of the varying difficulty levels of the suggested texts.

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I am a Graduate student in Electrical Engineering. I have to work on Electromagnetic, Dielectric, Magnetic field and Polarization for my project. But my problem is I do not have a good background in this course. Now, I really need it in graduate level. My question is, can you guys introduce me a reference, textbook or whatever can help to improve myself and get necessary information from it...Almost I have no idea in this concept of EE or Physics...
 
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There are many books on electromagnetic theory and electromagnetic properties of materials. Could you give us a little more information about what your background is and the nature of your project? I think recommendations would be quite different if you were focused on the solid state physics of dielectric and magnetic materials in static situations versus developing models of complex media to use in wave propagation simulations versus ...

jason
 
jasonRF said:
There are many books on electromagnetic theory and electromagnetic properties of materials. Could you give us a little more information about what your background is and the nature of your project? I think recommendations would be quite different if you were focused on the solid state physics of dielectric and magnetic materials in static situations versus developing models of complex media to use in wave propagation simulations versus ...

jason
My background is Computer Engineering ( Now EE)and to be honest I have almost no idea about electromagnetic( I took electromagnetic in my undergrad). each time I hear Maxwell's equation, it seems to me it is the first time I am hearing it. It means I just passed this course with an awful grade. But, for my work, I have to get background very quickly and even do simulations for my group. It is about seeking the magnetic and electric. So, what I need is to know EM very well. Please give me a basic and also a graduate level reference. To start from the very early definitions...
Thanks
 
Artyman said:
My background is Computer Engineering ( Now EE)and to be honest I have almost no idea about electromagnetic( I took electromagnetic in my undergrad). each time I hear Maxwell's equation, it seems to me it is the first time I am hearing it. It means I just passed this course with an awful grade. But, for my work, I have to get background very quickly and even do simulations for my group. It is about seeking the magnetic and electric. So, what I need is to know EM very well. Please give me a basic and also a graduate level reference. To start from the very early definitions...
Thanks
Well, the standard textbook for physicists on the graduate level is Jackson, Classical Electrodynamics.
 
If you feel you don't remember E&M, start off with and undergrad text, Wangsness or something else before Jackson.
 
Artyman said:
. But, for my work, I have to get background very quickly and even do simulations for my group. It is about seeking the magnetic and electric. So, what I need is to know EM very well.
Thanks
Realistically, you won't be able to learn all of EM very well very quickly. I recommend going to your university library and looking at the books in the engineering electromagnetics section. For undergrad books, considire
Cheng, "Field and Wave Electromagnetics"
Ida, "Engineering Electromagnetics"
Hayt and Buck, "Engineering Electromagnetics"
Kraus, "Electromagnetics"
Lorrain and Corson, "Electromagnetic fields and waves"
and on the shelves near these. Find one or two that work for you.

For graduate level books it really does depend on what you really care about ("seeking the magnetic and electric" doesn't give us any information). If you are modeling static fields, then I think Jackson's book is a good place to start for theory (most graduate engineering books don't even mention static fields)
Jackson, "classical electrodynamics". Is written for physicists but the first 9 or 10 chapters (especially in 3rd edition) are worth a look

Standard graduate engineering electromagnetics texts you should look at in your library would be
Balanis, "advanced engineering electromagnetics"
Harrington, "time harmonic electromagnetic fields"
Jin, "theory and computation of electromagnetic fields" (which has some stuff on numerics as well)
Sadiku, "numerical techniques in electromagnetics"

One final book that may be worth a look is,
Fleish, "a student's guide to Maxwell's equations" - it gets rave reviews on amazon

So go to your library and look around. After you find a few books, it will take some real effort to get up to speed but that is part of graduate school!

jason
 
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Dr Transport said:
If you feel you don't remember E&M, start off with and undergrad text, Wangsness or something else before Jackson.
Thank you for your help.
 
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vanhees71 said:
Well, the standard textbook for physicists on the graduate level is Jackson, Classical Electrodynamics.
Thank you for your help.
 
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jasonRF said:
Realistically, you won't be able to learn all of EM very well very quickly. I recommend going to your university library and looking at the books in the engineering electromagnetics section. For undergrad books, considire
Cheng, "Field and Wave Electromagnetics"
Ida, "Engineering Electromagnetics"
Hayt and Buck, "Engineering Electromagnetics"
Kraus, "Electromagnetics"
Lorrain and Corson, "Electromagnetic fields and waves"
and on the shelves near these. Find one or two that work for you.

For graduate level books it really does depend on what you really care about ("seeking the magnetic and electric" doesn't give us any information). If you are modeling static fields, then I think Jackson's book is a good place to start for theory (most graduate engineering books don't even mention static fields)
Jackson, "classical electrodynamics". Is written for physicists but the first 9 or 10 chapters (especially in 3rd edition) are worth a look

Standard graduate engineering electromagnetics texts you should look at in your library would be
Balanis, "advanced engineering electromagnetics"
Harrington, "time harmonic electromagnetic fields"
Jin, "theory and computation of electromagnetic fields" (which has some stuff on numerics as well)
Sadiku, "numerical techniques in electromagnetics"

One final book that may be worth a look is,
Fleish, "a student's guide to Maxwell's equations" - it gets rave reviews on amazon

So go to your library and look around. After you find a few books, it will take some real effort to get up to speed but that is part of graduate school!

jason
Thank you for your full response. I will go through Cheng ( I can remember was our UG reference textbook but I afraid of it) and also Ida.
Thank you again.
 

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