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The discussion centers on the proof of Proposition 2.1.25 from Sohrab's "Basic Real Analysis," specifically regarding the application of mathematical induction. The proof uses induction on powers of two, establishing that the inequality holds for \( G_{2^m} \leq A_{2^m} \) and then demonstrating that if true for \( n=2^m \), it applies to all smaller positive integers. This approach deviates from the standard induction method, which typically requires proving the base case and the inductive step for consecutive integers. Instead, it introduces a new predicate \( Q(m) \) that simplifies the proof process. Ultimately, the method confirms the AM-GM inequality for all natural numbers.
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I am reading Houshang H. Sohrab's book: "Basic Real Analysis" (Second Edition).

I am focused on Chapter 2: Sequences and Series of Real Numbers ... ...

I need help with the proof of Proposition 2.1.25 ...

Proposition 2.1.25 reads as follows:View attachment 7071
View attachment 7072In the above proof, Sohrab appears to be using mathematical induction ... BUT ... he proves the inequality for $$n= 2$$, but then, in the inductive step, instead of assuming the inequality is true for $$n$$ and then proving it is true for $$n+1$$ ... Sohrab assumes the inequality is true for $$n = 2^m$$ and then proceeds to prove it true for $$2n = 2^{ m+1}$$ ... then finishes the proof by picking an $$m$$ such that $$n \lt 2^m$$ and establishing the inequality ...
My questions are as follows:

What is the valid proof process here ... ?

How does the proof process fit with the usual mathematical induction strategy ...Peter
 
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Peter said:
What is the valid proof process here ... ?

How does the proof process fit with the usual mathematical induction strategy ...
The proof consists of two separate parts. The first part proves by induction on $m$ that $$G_{2^m} \leqslant A_{2^m}$$, using the "usual mathematical induction strategy".

The second part (which does not require induction at all) shows that if the result holds for $n=2^m$ then it also holds for any smaller (positive) value of $n$. Since every natural number is less than some power of $2$, it follows that the result holds for all $n$.
 
This is standard mathematical induction. If you need to prove some statement $\forall n\,P(n)$ by induction, it does not mean that you necessarily have to prove $P(0)$ and $\forall n\,(P(n)\to P(n+1))$. More precisely, when one says that they is going to prove some claim by induction, the first thing they have to provide is what I call the induction statement, i.e., some predicate $Q(m)$. This may or may not coincide with the original predicate $P(n)$. Once $Q(m)$ is fixed, the proof by induction proceeds by proving $Q(0)$ and $\forall m\,(Q(m)\to Q(m+1))$. Thus one gets $\forall m\,Q(m)$. Then they have to prove $(\forall m\,Q(m))\to(\forall n\,P(n))$.

Guessing the predicate $Q(m)$ from the original $P(n)$ is sometimes nontrivial. For example, to prove the property $P(n)\equiv f_{2n+1}=f_{n}^2+f_{n+1}^2$ of Fibonacci numbers one has to generalize it to $Q(m)\equiv f_{m+n+1}=f_mf_n+f_{m+1}f_{n+1}$; otherwise the induction step does not go through. Then once we have $\forall m\,Q(m)$ for each $n$, we set $m=n$.

So instead of proving $\forall n\,P(n)$ in a standard way, one may choose another parameter, such as $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ or the number of prime divisors of $n$, and perform induction on this parameter. In the latter case this means choosing $Q(m)$ to be the following statement: $P(n)$ holds for all $n$ that are factored into $m$ prime divisors.

In the AM-GM inequality $Q(m)$ is $G_{2^m}\le A_{2^m}$, and once this is proved for all natural $m$, we deduce from it (without induction) that $G_n\le A_n$ for all $n$.
 
Opalg said:
The proof consists of two separate parts. The first part proves by induction on $m$ that $$G_{2^m} \leqslant A_{2^m}$$, using the "usual mathematical induction strategy".

The second part (which does not require induction at all) shows that if the result holds for $n=2^m$ then it also holds for any smaller (positive) value of $n$. Since every natural number is less than some power of $2$, it follows that the result holds for all $n$.

Thanks Opalg ... that clarifies the matter a great deal ...

Appreciate your help ...

Peter

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Evgeny.Makarov said:
This is standard mathematical induction. If you need to prove some statement $\forall n\,P(n)$ by induction, it does not mean that you necessarily have to prove $P(0)$ and $\forall n\,(P(n)\to P(n+1))$. More precisely, when one says that they is going to prove some claim by induction, the first thing they have to provide is what I call the induction statement, i.e., some predicate $Q(m)$. This may or may not coincide with the original predicate $P(n)$. Once $Q(m)$ is fixed, the proof by induction proceeds by proving $Q(0)$ and $\forall m\,(Q(m)\to Q(m+1))$. Thus one gets $\forall m\,Q(m)$. Then they have to prove $(\forall m\,Q(m))\to(\forall n\,P(n))$.

Guessing the predicate $Q(m)$ from the original $P(n)$ is sometimes nontrivial. For example, to prove the property $P(n)\equiv f_{2n+1}=f_{n}^2+f_{n+1}^2$ of Fibonacci numbers one has to generalize it to $Q(m)\equiv f_{m+n+1}=f_mf_n+f_{m+1}f_{n+1}$; otherwise the induction step does not go through. Then once we have $\forall m\,Q(m)$ for each $n$, we set $m=n$.

So instead of proving $\forall n\,P(n)$ in a standard way, one may choose another parameter, such as $\lfloor n/2\rfloor$ or the number of prime divisors of $n$, and perform induction on this parameter. In the latter case this means choosing $Q(m)$ to be the following statement: $P(n)$ holds for all $n$ that are factored into $m$ prime divisors.

In the AM-GM inequality $Q(m)$ is $G_{2^m}\le A_{2^m}$, and once this is proved for all natural $m$, we deduce from it (without induction) that $G_n\le A_n$ for all $n$.
Hi Evgeny ...

... thanks for a really informative post ...

... still reflecting on what you have said ...

Appreciate your help ...

Peter
 
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