The antineutrino in Beta decay

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the role of the antineutrino in beta decay, exploring the physical changes that lead to its emission and the conservation laws involved. Participants express confusion over the nature of virtual particles and seek clarification on the mechanisms behind antineutrino production.

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Main Points Raised

  • Adam questions the physical changes that lead to the emission of an antineutrino during beta decay and seeks an explanation for these changes.
  • Some participants challenge the notion of a "virtual particle being formed," suggesting that the term "virtual" implies it is not real and questioning the implications for the antineutrino's existence.
  • One participant explains that the antineutrino is necessary to conserve quantum numbers such as spin and lepton number in the decay process.
  • Another participant reiterates the importance of the antineutrino in maintaining balance in the decay process, specifically regarding spin and lepton values.
  • There is a clarification that neutrinos are spin-1/2 particles with lepton number +1, while antineutrinos have lepton number -1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the nature of virtual particles and the necessity of the antineutrino in beta decay. While some points are clarified, there remains uncertainty and differing interpretations of the concepts discussed.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the definitions and implications of virtual particles, as well as the specific mechanisms that lead to antineutrino production in beta decay.

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I understand the physical changes in beta decay that eventually lead to the virtual particle, a W- boson being formed. However I do not understand the physical changes that take place, which eventually lead to an antineutrino being emitted. What changes take place in the W- boson, that make it decay into an antineutrino and electron?

I would also be glad if someone could explain why the physical changes take place?

Thanks in advance
- Adam
 
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ajassat said:
I understand the physical changes in beta decay that eventually lead to the virtual particle, a W- boson being formed.

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean. Also, you do understand that "a virtual particle being formed" is sort of a contradiction. The particle is virtual, not real. It's not formed.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I'm not sure that I understand what you mean. Also, you do understand that "a virtual particle being formed" is sort of a contradiction. The particle is virtual, not real. It's not formed.

By this do you mean that the antineutrino isn't really there after beta decay?
If the production of an antineutrino is virtual, then would you be able to explain how?

Simply, I would like to understand why we have an antineutrino involved ,regardless of it being real or virtual.

Thanks for attempting the answer the question.
-Adam
 
There is an antineutrino around to conserve spin (and other quantum numbers, like lepton number). If I have the decay [tex]n \rightarrow p + e^- + \overline{\nu}[/tex], I have a spin-1/2 object on the left hand side and without the neutrino, I have either a spin-0 or spin-1 ensemble on the right. I also have L = 0 on the left and L = 1 on the right. Finally, the energy spectrum of the electron is characteristic of three-body decays, not two body decays. For all of these reasons, one expects an additional particle produced, the antineutrino.

Of course, today those (anti-)neutrinos have been measured.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
There is an antineutrino around to conserve spin (and other quantum numbers, like lepton number). If I have the decay [tex]n \rightarrow p + e^- + \overline{\nu}[/tex], I have a spin-1/2 object on the left hand side and without the neutrino, I have either a spin-0 or spin-1 ensemble on the right. I also have L = 0 on the left and L = 1 on the right. Finally, the energy spectrum of the electron is characteristic of three-body decays, not two body decays. For all of these reasons, one expects an additional particle produced, the antineutrino.

Of course, today those (anti-)neutrinos have been measured.

This has made me understand why it is necessary to produce an anti-neutrino in beta decay. So what are the spin and lepton values for the neutrino which help to create a balances on both sides of the decay?

Thank you for your time,
-Adam
 
The neutrino is a spin 1/2 particle and a neutrino has lepton number +1 and an antineutrino has -1.
 
malawi_glenn said:
The neutrino is a spin 1/2 particle and a neutrino has lepton number +1 and an antineutrino has -1.

Thanks for this. I now understand how the anti-neutrino helps to balance things out.
 

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