The Appeal of Dressing Fashionably for Men

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The discussion centers around why many men do not dress more fashionably, highlighting various perspectives on fashion, comfort, and societal expectations. A well-dressed man is often seen as attractive, yet many men express a lack of interest in maintaining a fashionable wardrobe due to the costs and effort involved. The conversation touches on the perception of what constitutes "fashionable," with some arguing that it is subjective and varies by age and context. Many participants prefer comfort and minimalism over formal attire, often opting for casual clothing like t-shirts and jeans. There is also a consensus that fit is crucial; poorly fitting clothes can detract from a person's appearance, regardless of the style. The thread concludes that while some men may dress casually, they can still look presentable with the right fit and choice of clothing, emphasizing that personal style reflects one's personality.
  • #51
"It's european!"

I agree it does look like a purse. At first, I thought you were commenting on the picture Evo posted. Either way though, what the hell does it matter if it looks like a purse? I don't understand the insecurity about a guy wearing a purse like bag that most guys have.
 
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  • #52
rootX said:
No cyrus said that guy need to have black t-shirt and black shoes etc (see his picture), and I was using that.

No, I never said it the way you worded it.

Damn, you don't pay attention! (smacks rootx upside the head)
 
  • #53
I don't mind a guy wearing jeans and a t-shirt, as long as we're not going someplace where nicer attire is more appropriate (i.e., out to dinner). But, the jeans and t-shirt HAVE to fit right! That's what makes most guys look like slobs, it's not the clothes, but the fit of the clothes. If you're either cinching the jeans on with a belt so they make you look like you've got no butt, or you're sucking in your gut to button them under your beer belly, they're not going to look good. Likewise, if you're in your 30s and you've owned that t-shirt since high school, chances are it's too tight, too faded and too full of holes to even be used as a dust rag let alone clothing. And, if you're wearing a shirt three sizes too big, you're going to look like a scrawny dweeb, no matter how much time you spend at the gym.

Actually, same goes with the nice dress clothes. If they don't fit you right, it doesn't matter, you're still going to look like a dork. The seam of the shoulder should line up with the end of your shoulder, not hang several inches down your arm. If you're thin and buying off-the-rack, either find a slim fitting shirt, or spend the extra $10 to take it to a tailor and have the side seams taken into fit you better. Make sure you're buying the right collar size too. If you're getting over-sized collars, you're going to look like a pencil-neck. Not flattering, and impossible to put on a tie and make it look right. It goes without saying that you don't want it so tight it's choking you either.

And, it's amazing how just trading in the white sneakers for a nice pair of shoes can make jeans and a t-shirt look so much nicer. Save the sneakers for when you're doing a lot of walking, such as if you go out walking on trails in a park or sightseeing in a city. If you're going out somewhere like the mall or even to a casual eating place where jeans are acceptable, put on nice shoes. Such a simple change makes such a difference in appearance.
 
  • #54
I just verified with Evo Child, there are still "no t-shirts" signs at the nicer local clubs. That's how it was when I went clubbing, so that hasn't changed. Some restaurants I've been to require a jacket and some even a tie and have extras to provide to customers that show up inappropriately dressed.

I remember one restaurant in Chicago my date from London and I went to, he had a jacket and tie, but was wearing nice corduroy pants, which were fashionable then and he wasn't allowed in.
 
  • #55
Evo said:
I just verified with Evo Child, there are still "no t-shirts" signs at the nicer local clubs. That's how it was when I went clubbing, so that hasn't changed. Some restaurants I've been to require a jacket and some even a tie and have extras to provide to customers that show up inappropriately dressed.

I remember one restaurant in Chicago my date from London and I went to, he had a jacket and tie, but was wearing nice corduroy pants, which were fashionable then and he wasn't allowed in.

It really does depend on the t-shirt here. You can get into a nice club with a t-shirt, but it's got to be a nice designer t-shirt.
 
  • #56
Okay, just to help those who can't see the difference, here are the two photos from earlier in the thread, but with some arrows added. Both are wearing jeans and a black shirt. But, in the one with the runway model, look at where the shoulder seam is. On Steve Jobs, look at where it's way down his arm looking sloppy. Then, look at the baggy saggy butt on Steve Jobs because his jeans don't fit right (and that light color never looks good on an older person...it should have been left in the 80s where those jeans were found). By comparison, look at the runway model and see how his jeans fit his body closely...even though he's a slender guy, he looks better because they aren't baggy on him. Even that model would look like a dork if he wore the same fit of clothes as Steve Jobs was wearing in that photo.
 

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  • #57
Cyrus said:
It really does depend on the t-shirt here. You can get into a nice club with a t-shirt, but it's got to be a nice designer t-shirt.

What the heck is a nice designer t-shirt? Does that just mean it has to advertise for the designer and have their logo on it? How on Earth could you tell the difference as long as it isn't so super-cheap that it's obviously very thin fabric?
 
  • #58
Gordon Ramsay can pull off a t-shirt.

He can also pull off the "dead dear over the shoulder" look too.
 

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  • #59
Evo said:
Gordon Ramsay can pull off a t-shirt.

Yep...see, all it takes is for it to fit right. :biggrin:
 
  • #61
The pic that Cyrus posted is a good example on how a man should dress. (clean, crisp, nicely put together, etc...)
 
  • #63
Moonbear said:
What's special about those? The first one is just a striped t-shirt. The second two are UGLY patterns. Nothing about them says they're anything other than just another t-shirt.

Basically, they cost a lot of money. That's about it. Which is why I said earlier I'm not paying more than $50 on a t-shirt. But when someone is wearing this to a nice bar, they usually have on equally expensive jeans, shoes, and maybe a blazer. You can tell the t-shirt they are wearing isn't cheap.

I'm also not a fan of those t-shirts with the patterns on them like that. I just like a simple solid or stripe t-shirt.
 
  • #65
Me wearing said black t-shirt:

[URL][PLAIN]http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2750/34806745gm6.png
 
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  • #66
mcknia07 said:
They have shirts like that at Khols and I love them, they are cute. Just wish more guys would look at the manicans and see how they look and go from there :biggrin:

Most manicans use steriods. LOTS of steroids.
 
  • #67
Moonbear said:
What's special about those? The first one is just a striped t-shirt. The second two are UGLY patterns. Nothing about them says they're anything other than just another t-shirt.
They're Hugo Boss. They're recognizable. Evo Child says that designer t-shirts are allowed. People that know fashion can tell. It would be lost on me. Like my girlfriends that could tell if a man's shoes cost under $600. The guys I worked with always wore fine suits, usually costing around $1,600 at Barney's. Your boyfriend probably shops at Barney's. Have him take you there, my ex stocks up whenever he's in NY.
 
  • #68
Cyrus said:
Most manicans use steriods. LOTS of steroids.

I never said they have to have bodies like the manicans, nice defination though.

Nice example though Cy!
 
  • #69
Cyrus said:
Me wearing said black t-shirt:

[PLAIN]http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2750/34806745gm6.png[/QUOTE]Wow, for a moment I thought you'd cropped Gordon Ramsay.
 
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  • #70
Evo said:
Wow, for a moment I thought you'd cropped Gordon Ramsay.

AHAHAHAH, ramsey is crampin my style. That was pure coincidence! Plus, Ramsey is all alone, I have friends because I don't curse at everyone. F***in frenchmen...bullocks.
 
  • #71
Monique said:
The way you dress reveals something about your personality.


I'm typically a t-shirt, hoodie, shorts and khaki pants type of person. What does that reveal about my personality?
 
  • #72
Cyrus said:
T-shirts are ok to wear so long as they are nice t-shirts. Usually the nice ones are expensive though ~$50-60. And I'm not paying that much for a nice T-shirt.

Colored t-shirts that you find at places like banana republic, et al. are fine. They are a solid color, usually black, charcoal, white, brown, tan, dark red. They are dressy and not terribly expensive (around $16.00 each, I think?). Those typically look quite nice. Dark Jeans, belt, solid black t-shirt, and nice shoes. It has that architect look. I personally like it.

You really can wear almost anything, so long as it looks nice and well put together.


http://www.bananarepublic.com/browse/product.do?cid=35922&pid=273929&scid=273929022

That's the tshirt I have.

Are you a fashion catalogue?
 
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  • #73
Cyrus said:
Me wearing said black t-shirt:

[PLAIN]http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2750/34806745gm6.png[/QUOTE]

I hope that isn't all!

Depending on what I'm wearing, that might suitable as an undershirt at most.

I never wear t-shirts... ever. At the gym only. I always where, button shirts or polos. Which can be worn with different sweaters (or a sweater on its own), or a jacket.
 
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  • #74
JasonRox said:
Are you a fashion catalogue?

Huh?
 
  • #75
JasonRox said:
I hope that isn't all!

Depending on what I'm wearing, that might suitable as an undershirt at most.

I never wear t-shirts... ever. At the gym only. I always where, button shirts or polos. Which can be worn with different sweaters (or a sweater on its own), or a jacket.

Um, no. Thanks for your wrong opinion though. I agree with your style; however, you CAN wear a t-shirt alone. Summer time is too hot for a sweater/jacket. Polos all the time is too monotonous.
 
  • #76
Cyrus said:
Um, no. Thanks for your wrong opinion though. I agree with your style; however, you CAN wear a t-shirt alone.

Sorry dude, doesn't work.

It looks straight out of a Sears catalogue regardless of where it's from. If you had an athletic build it can work, otherwise no.

Kind of a like a fat chick wearing a bikini. Some items are suited for particular body types.
 
  • #77
Cyrus said:
Polos all the time is too monotonous.

I agree, but it's all I got for now.

I think my big issue is pants. I get sick of my pants really fast. I just completely changed like 3 months ago and I feel like I need a change again.
 
  • #78
JasonRox said:
Sorry dude, doesn't work.

It looks straight out of a Sears catalogue regardless of where it's from. If you had an athletic build it can work, otherwise no.

Kind of a like a fat chick wearing a bikini. Some items are suited for particular body types.

Nope, you're wrong.
 
  • #79
Cyrus said:
I totally agree! :smile:

Ah, that's better. o:)
 
  • #80
JasonRox said:
Cyrus, you are amazing...IN BED :devil:

You're making me blush.
 
  • #81
Cyrus said:
You're making me blush.

Your turn tonight.
 
  • #82
Ohh la la...umm...ok
 
  • #83
mcknia07 said:
Ohh la la...umm...ok

Would you like to join us?
 
  • #84
Oh sure, sounds like a date to me.
 
  • #85
mcknia07 said:
Ohh la la...umm...ok

They are talking the way models talk with each other ... :smile:

Ok, maybe I am wrong but I think models think that only they know how to dress ... and so they try to put down other models
 
  • #86
rootX said:
They are talking the way models talk with each other ... :smile:

Ok, maybe I am wrong but I think models think that only they know how to dress ... and so they try to put down other models

Like... whatever.
 
  • #87
rootX said:
They are talking the way models talk with each other ... :smile:

Ok, maybe I am wrong but I think models think that only they know how to dress ... and so they try to put down other models

No, I'm afraid you are wrong.
 
  • #88
mcknia07 said:
Oh sure, sounds like a date to me.

Good, you're paying! So Jason, shall we get the lobsters served on a top sirloin steak wrapped in bacon?
 
  • #89
rootX said:
They are talking the way models talk with each other ... :smile:

Ok, maybe I am wrong but I think models think that only they know how to dress ... and so they try to put down other models

.........how old are you again?
 
  • #90
:smile:

Penalty box for the lot of you!
 
  • #91
Cyrus said:
Good, you're paying! So Jason, shall we get the lobsters served on a top sirloin steak wrapped in bacon?

With a nice glass of wine.

At mcknia's place afterwards, it was a rather large mess last time.
 
  • #92
Cyrus said:
Good, you're paying! So Jason, shall we get the lobsters served on a top sirloin steak wrapped in bacon?

Lobster is yucky and, well, I'm not one for steak either.
 
  • #93
mcknia07 said:
Lobster is yucky and, well, I'm not one for steak either.

I not going to eat the lobster. I'm just ordering it for show.
 
  • #94
mcknia07 said:
Lobster is yucky and, well, I'm not one for steak either.

Don't worry, Jason and I have something you might like :wink: Hiyooooooooooo.
 
  • #95
Cyrus said:
Don't worry, Jason and I have something you might like :wink: Hiyooooooooooo.

Hmmmm...Well...you guys can bring the wine, since I know nothing about wine.
 
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  • #96
Cyrus said:
.........how old are you again?

I need to construct it more.
I was thinking (it was making sense) it (while programming) and then I lost my thoughts ...
:(
 
  • #97
rootX said:
I need to construct it more.
I was thinking (it was making sense) it (while programming) and then I lost my thoughts ...
:(

Is your native language english? You type in fragments. It's hard to understand what you say.
 
  • #98
Cyrus said:
Is your native language english? You type in fragments. It's hard to understand what you say.

No it's not and also I didn't type it under one breath. Added fragments later on to make it worse.
 
  • #99
rootX said:
No it's not and also I didn't type it under one breath. Added fragments later on to make it worse.

I would generally avoid it. It's very hard to read what you write most of the time because your thoughts jump around in the middle of a sentence. It lacks coherent continuity at times. :smile:
 
  • #100
Cyrus said:
I would generally avoid it. It's very hard to read what you write most of the time because your thoughts jump around in the middle of a sentence. It lacks coherent continuity at times. :smile:

I know that but I do it most of times anyway ;(. I finish up, then go back and add more bits of information which don't fit nicely in the existing sentences.
 

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