The Appeal of Dressing Fashionably for Men

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The discussion centers around why many men do not dress more fashionably, highlighting various perspectives on fashion, comfort, and societal expectations. A well-dressed man is often seen as attractive, yet many men express a lack of interest in maintaining a fashionable wardrobe due to the costs and effort involved. The conversation touches on the perception of what constitutes "fashionable," with some arguing that it is subjective and varies by age and context. Many participants prefer comfort and minimalism over formal attire, often opting for casual clothing like t-shirts and jeans. There is also a consensus that fit is crucial; poorly fitting clothes can detract from a person's appearance, regardless of the style. The thread concludes that while some men may dress casually, they can still look presentable with the right fit and choice of clothing, emphasizing that personal style reflects one's personality.
  • #91
Cyrus said:
Good, you're paying! So Jason, shall we get the lobsters served on a top sirloin steak wrapped in bacon?

With a nice glass of wine.

At mcknia's place afterwards, it was a rather large mess last time.
 
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  • #92
Cyrus said:
Good, you're paying! So Jason, shall we get the lobsters served on a top sirloin steak wrapped in bacon?

Lobster is yucky and, well, I'm not one for steak either.
 
  • #93
mcknia07 said:
Lobster is yucky and, well, I'm not one for steak either.

I not going to eat the lobster. I'm just ordering it for show.
 
  • #94
mcknia07 said:
Lobster is yucky and, well, I'm not one for steak either.

Don't worry, Jason and I have something you might like :wink: Hiyooooooooooo.
 
  • #95
Cyrus said:
Don't worry, Jason and I have something you might like :wink: Hiyooooooooooo.

Hmmmm...Well...you guys can bring the wine, since I know nothing about wine.
 
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  • #96
Cyrus said:
.........how old are you again?

I need to construct it more.
I was thinking (it was making sense) it (while programming) and then I lost my thoughts ...
:(
 
  • #97
rootX said:
I need to construct it more.
I was thinking (it was making sense) it (while programming) and then I lost my thoughts ...
:(

Is your native language english? You type in fragments. It's hard to understand what you say.
 
  • #98
Cyrus said:
Is your native language english? You type in fragments. It's hard to understand what you say.

No it's not and also I didn't type it under one breath. Added fragments later on to make it worse.
 
  • #99
rootX said:
No it's not and also I didn't type it under one breath. Added fragments later on to make it worse.

I would generally avoid it. It's very hard to read what you write most of the time because your thoughts jump around in the middle of a sentence. It lacks coherent continuity at times. :smile:
 
  • #100
Cyrus said:
I would generally avoid it. It's very hard to read what you write most of the time because your thoughts jump around in the middle of a sentence. It lacks coherent continuity at times. :smile:

I know that but I do it most of times anyway ;(. I finish up, then go back and add more bits of information which don't fit nicely in the existing sentences.
 
  • #101
rootX said:
I know that but I do it most of times anyway ;(. I finish up, then go back and add more bits of information which don't fit nicely in the existing sentences.

Then don't do that! Add new sentence, don't splice into existing ones.
 
  • #102
Just a piece of advice to the guys and ladies. I had to buy some sweaters because it's getting cold and I only have a one or two. When you go to buy some, make sure you check for (1) price (2) fit (3) fabric. The 3rd one is something I think most people don't look at.

A year ago I bought a black v-neck sweater. I saw a nice one at one store 80% cashmere, 20% silk. Then I saw the same one at Banana Republic and same price that was 86% silk, 14% cashmere.

I always look at the % of materials when I compare similar items at similar prices, and I try to get everything on sale if I can. I got a $74.00 sweater for $43.00, and another $98.00 sweater for $39.00. Most of the stuff at stores is way way over-priced. I never buy anything anymore unless I am 100% sure I'm happy with how it looks/fits. Nothings worse than wasting your money on something you hardly wear because you bought it on impulse.
 
  • #103
Those are pretty much my rules for shopping, though I tend to do some impulse buying, but I love what I pick out and they last a long time and go with the style too. I have a hard time finding things that fit though...
 
  • #104
mcknia07 said:
Those are pretty much my rules for shopping, though I tend to do some impulse buying, but I love what I pick out and they last a long time and go with the style too. I have a hard time finding things that fit though...

I get a lot of my stuff tailored. But its not $10 as moonbear said, its usually 20-25 for button up shirts.

Jackets are pretty expensive. I got one jacked tailored and it cost me nearly $100.

The ideal case is to get something on sale and then tailor it and end up spending around what you would have for the untailored article of clothing. I don't think you can tailor everything though, for example sweaters.
 
  • #105
Cyrus said:
I get a lot of my stuff tailored. But its not $10 as moonbear said, its usually 20-25 for button up shirts.

Jackets are pretty expensive. I got one jacked tailored and it cost me nearly $100.

The ideal case is to get something on sale and then tailor it and end up spending around what you would have for the untailored article of clothing. I don't think you can tailor everything though, for example sweaters.

if you get a really expensive suit, like a dior, they will tailor it for free.
 
  • #106
I live fairly close to a couple outlets:Ed Hardy, Polo, and Abercrombie are the ones I usually shop at the most. When I do go to these places I always look for the ladies that work there, i.e the one folding clothes. I usually go up to them, flirt with them, and tell them that if they want, they can go around and pick out some good clothes for me and I'll be back in an hour or so. Of course I give her my size and all the other important information. BUT GIRLS LOVE TO SHOP, and who better to pick my clothes out than a good looking female who knows what to look for??esp, when I am trying to impress the females. 99.9% I'm happy with what they pick out. Plus, it gets them away from folding clothes lol...
 
  • #107
Cyrus said:
I get a lot of my stuff tailored. But its not $10 as moonbear said, its usually 20-25 for button up shirts.
Probably regional differences. You live in a more expensive area than I do. Or, I could be out of touch with price increases. It's been a long time since I have needed to pay someone else to make alterations for me. I usually stick to things I can do myself.

I don't think you can tailor everything though, for example sweaters.

Yeah, sweaters you have to find something that fits right from the start. I can't find any I like this year and I also need to replace my old ones that have gotten ratty looking. They either seem to be plain and boring and unattractive, or they're thin sweaters, some of which look nice, but don't address my need for warm sweaters when it gets really cold (I still got a few of those for Fall), or the warm ones are huge and bulky and lumpy and generally ugly looking.

Fabric is an important consideration to some extent, certainly if you're trying to compare prices...an acrylic sweater should not cost the same as a cashmere. Though, I go more by feel. I like soft sweaters and blouses that feel like they're made of heavy fabric. I'll also hold them up to the light and put my hand behind them...the see-through test. So many fabrics are so cheap, they're see-through, which is not flattering on anyone.

Most importantly, I check the cleaning instructions! If something is dry clean only, I pass. I'm realistic about that. Anything that needs to get dry cleaned winds up in a pile in the corner of the closet and I never get around to doing anything with it, so I'm basically only wearing it once. I can deal with things that can't go in the dryer, as long as they can be washed normally (even if it's just gentle cycle). When I used to live in apartments with shared laundry facilities, though, I'd pass over stuff that had to be air dried too. Again, just realistic that I didn't have the space to set up drying racks for a lot of clothes, and every so often, the "helpful" neighbor in a rush to do their own laundry would toss everything into the dryer and start it before I got back to it (despite that I always left a laundry basket on top of the washer in case I got distracted from returning when the load was done so they could just toss the wet clothes into the basket if someone was waiting when the load was done washing). :rolleyes:
 
  • #108
Jesus, I'm glad none of you pick out my clothes for me. I'd look like an idiot with some of these styles and I'd be constantly uncomfortable.
 
  • #109
LightbulbSun said:
Jesus, I'm glad none of you pick out my clothes for me. I'd look like an idiot with some of these styles and I'd be constantly uncomfortable.

Well, you do have to have the sense to pick out styles that go with your own body type. General tips on fit and fabric apply across styles. No matter what your style and body type, you want the clothes you choose to fit properly. For men, the simplest part of fit to consider, and the most common one that they ignore, is the shoulder (it's important for women too, just women seem better at getting this part right). It doesn't matter if you like t-shirts, polo shirts, button-down oxfords, dress shirts, suit jackets, smoking jackets, sweaters, sweatshirts, neutral colors, bold colors, pastel colors, solids, stripes, random blotches, etc., if you make sure the shoulder fits right, it'll immediately look better on you than if the shoulder is too big.

And with pants, just try the darn things on before buying! I've known so many guys who know their waist and inseam size and just buy anything without trying it on. Not all pants are cut equally, and not all look equally flattering on everyone. Some guys should wear flat front trousers, others are better served by pleated fronts. Some need a little more room in the seat to show off their cute butts, others should get something slimmer so there isn't a lot of bagginess to accentuate their lack of butt. If you have skinny little chicken legs like that model probably has, slender pants will look best. If you have ginormous thighs from working out, a looser fit would be in order (though, those guys usually need to buy a couple sizes too big to fit their thighs, then have the waist tailored smaller). You have to think about what flatters your body type. There is no "ideal" body type. Everyone can look fantastic if they choose clothes that suit their type.
 
  • #110
offtheleft said:
if you get a really expensive suit, like a dior, they will tailor it for free.


Oh, you're paying for it! Those suits run over a grand, typically. It's already included in the price when you buy it.
 
  • #111
LightbulbSun said:
Jesus, I'm glad none of you pick out my clothes for me. I'd look like an idiot with some of these styles and I'd be constantly uncomfortable.

? You'd look like an idiot in a black t-shirt and dark jeans with dress shoes? ....aye caramba you're insecure.


Anyways, this is what I'm wearing today (casual). You can see what moonbear is saying in terms of how things should fit your body. I typically dress like this for normal day-to-day stuff I'm doing.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9378/pict0330ux7.jpg
 
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  • #112
Cyrus said:
I get a lot of my stuff tailored. But its not $10 as moonbear said, its usually 20-25 for button up shirts.

Jackets are pretty expensive. I got one jacked tailored and it cost me nearly $100.

The ideal case is to get something on sale and then tailor it and end up spending around what you would have for the untailored article of clothing. I don't think you can tailor everything though, for example sweaters.

I should get a lot of things tailored, if they don't fit, but instead, I just don't buy it. Plus, we don't have a good tailor around here. The tailoring will probably end up being more than the item I paid for.
 
  • #113
Go to the outlets. Even if you have to drive 3 hours to get to one. They are totally worth it. Every state has one. I got a bunch of really nice Brooks Brothers sweaters and a long sleeve rugby polo for about $200 when they should have cost $500. I also bought a Helley Hansen Jacket (the same type of jackets that the US coast guard and the guys on the Deadliets Catch show wear) at their outlet store for $300 when it originally cost $800.
 
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  • #114
Wow, sounds like it would be nice, but very expensive. I'm a college student here, and yes, I'm working full time, so I guess I can spoil myself sometimes. But, I tend to buy shoes to spoil myself. ( I have over 50 pairs and still counting) :biggrin:
 
  • #115
Cyrus said:
? You'd look like an idiot in a black t-shirt and dark jeans with dress shoes? ....aye caramba you're insecure.


Anyways, this is what I'm wearing today (casual). You can see what moonbear is saying in terms of how things should fit your body. I typically dress like this for normal day-to-day stuff I'm doing.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9378/pict0330ux7.jpg
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I always have a hoodie on regardless of what season it is. I rarely go out without them.

http://www.skilltoys.com/images/P/hoodie.jpg [I prefer this one and have like 3-4 of this type and 2-3 of below type]
http://www.showyourlogo.com/custom-sweatshirts/Fruit-Full-Zip-Hoodie.jpg
 
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  • #116
rootX said:
I always have a hoodie on regardless of what season it is. I rarely go out without them.

http://www.skilltoys.com/images/P/hoodie.jpg [I prefer this one and have like 3-4 of this type and 2-3 of below type]
http://www.showyourlogo.com/custom-sweatshirts/Fruit-Full-Zip-Hoodie.jpg

You must be a track star. That's probably the only person that can wear it and get away with it. The girl in the first link is cute, but the hoodie is about 10x too big for her. It destroys all the curves she might have. I can't even see her rack...what a waste.

I don't own a single hoodie, and I never will.
 
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  • #117
Cyrus said:
? You'd look like an idiot in a black t-shirt and dark jeans with dress shoes? ....aye caramba you're insecure.

No, I like wearing dark t-shirts and dark jeans. I have a ton of dark jeans in fact. I don't wear shoes, I wear running sneakers. Better traction, and I can get them dirty.

It's the polo shirts and wide striped shirts that wouldn't go well on me. I hate it when people get stuff that's too tight on them. For god sakes, I mean get stuff that fits you, but give your body some room to circulate the blood.
 
  • #118
question about tailoring. I have some dress pants where the length/waist is perfect, but they are too baggy. can that be fixed?
 
  • #119
Cyrus said:
I don't own a single hoodie, and I never will.

Neither do I.

That one outfit you just posted is practically what I'm wearing today. It's a plain Hollister (spelling?) polo, with fitting jeans.

I'm a thin guy with a decent build. For me, it's rare that I need something tailore. The only time I would need it done is if I bought something like at Tommy Hilfiger (which I won't) and the average American store. This is because those stores make things wider. A small size at a Tommy store is probably a large or XL at a store like BR.

Plus with my waist being like 29-30 inches, I'm pretty much always certain my size is in the sales rack. Sales rack typically have things from 28-30 inches and 36 inches and up. Bonus for me!

I got a sick pair of jeans once at BR for like $30-40. Through them out awhile ago though. Got sick of them (I mentionned earlier about pants).
 
  • #120
Greg Bernhardt said:
question about tailoring. I have some dress pants where the length/waist is perfect, but they are too baggy. can that be fixed?

Well, why did you buy baggy pants?

Stay away from typical American stores. I worked at a clothing store, and it was known in our store that American = Fat Clothes.

If that can be fixed, I doubt it.

Also, avoid pleats! There are horrid... and made for... again fat people.
 

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