Undergrad The Commutator of Vector Fields: Explained & Examples

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The commutator of vector fields is both a computational tool and has geometric significance. It measures the difference in outcomes when following two vector fields in different orders, indicating non-commutativity. An example illustrates that starting at a point and flowing along vector fields X and Y in different sequences can lead to different endpoints. If the commutator is zero, the vector fields commute, resulting in the same endpoint. Understanding this concept is crucial for grasping advanced topics in differential geometry and physics.
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Hi,

I'm just starting to read Wald and I find the notion of the commutator hard to grasp. Is it a computation device or does it have an intuitive geometric meaning? Can anyone give me an example of two non-commutative vector fields?

Thanks!
 
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Zhang Bei said:
Hi,

I'm just starting to read Wald and I find the notion of the commutator hard to grasp. Is it a computation device or does it have an intuitive geometric meaning? Can anyone give me an example of two non-commutative vector fields?

Thanks!
Here is an easy example in section 6.2: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/journey-manifold-su2-part-ii/

As a geometric intuition, you can imagine to start at a certain point ##p## and follow a flow along vector field ##X## for a small distance, from there along vector field ##Y## for a while and reach point ##s##. If you now start again at ##p## but follow first along ##Y## and then ##X##, you will usually end up at a different point ##t \neq s##. That difference is measured by ##[X,Y]=X \circ Y - Y \circ X##. If ##[X,Y]=0## then ##t=s##.
 
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