The Derivative of 2^x: How to Find It and Understand the Number e

[robertjford80]

Homework Statement

I'm trying to find the derivative of 2^x by hand so that I can better understand the number e. This video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNZgbj3UaRE&feature=plcp

says the answer is .69. I can't figure out how to get that

Homework Equations

lim h -> 0 [f(x₀+h) - f(x₀)]/h

The Attempt at a Solution

So let's take point (3,8)

[2(3+h)^3 - 4(3)^3]/h

= [54 + 2h^3 - 108]/h

= 54

not exactly .69

 

[Jorriss]

The Attempt at a Solution

So let's take point (3,8)

[2(3+h)^3 - 4(3)^3]/h

= [54 + 2h^3 - 108]/h

= 54

not exactly .69

I am not sure what you are doing here - but that looks incorrect.

The easiest way to do this derivative is to write y = 2^x and take the natural log of both sides and then differentiate.

 

[robertjford80]

If I do that, I get

ln y = x ln 2

Two unknowns and one equation, can't be solved.

 

[Jorriss]

If I do that, I get

ln y = x ln 2

Two unknowns and one equation, can't be solved.

No... you take the derivative with respect to x of both sides.

 

[robertjford80]

Then I will still have an x in my solution, not .69

 

[robertjford80]

wait, the natural log of 2 is .69, ok, I get it now.

 

[Jorriss]

wait, the natural log of 2 is .69, ok, I get it now.

Are you sure? Because the derivative of 2^x is not .69. It's (ln2)*2^x. It is only .69 at x=0.

 

[robertjford80]

well, i get enough to satisfy me for the moment.

 

[Jorriss]

well, i get enough to satisfy me for the moment.

well, ok then.

 

[clamtrox]

The Attempt at a Solution

So let's take point (3,8)

[2(3+h)^3 - 4(3)^3]/h

= [54 + 2h^3 - 108]/h

= 54

not exactly .69

This is wrong on so many levels... You should really read through the more basic stuff again...

So if f(x) = 2^x, then f(x₀+h)-f(x₀) = 2^(x₀+h)-2^x₀

Next, you don't pick a random value for h... Instead, you take the limit as h tends to zero of (f(x+h)-f(x))/h

 

[DryRun]

Or you could just learn the general formula: $\frac{d(a^x)}{dx}=a^x.\ln a$ where a is any real constant.

 

[HallsofIvy]

Homework Statement

I'm trying to find the derivative of 2^x by hand so that I can better understand the number e. This video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNZgbj3UaRE&feature=plcp

says the answer is .69. I can't figure out how to get that

Your whole question doesn't make much sense. The derivative of $2^x$ is a function of x, not a number. Since, in fact, the derivative of $2^x$ is the function $ln(2)2^x$, and ln(2) is (approximately) 0.69, the derivative of $2^x$ at x= 0 is (approximately) 0.69.

Homework Equations

lim h -> 0 [f(x₀+h) - f(x₀)]/h

The Attempt at a Solution

So let's take point (3,8)

[2(3+h)^3 - 4(3)^3]/h

= [54 + 2h^3 - 108]/h

Pretty much everything here is wrong. For one thing, $(x+ h)^3= x^3+ 3x^2h+ 3xh^3+ h^3$, NOT "$x^3+ h^3$". But where did that $2(3+h)^3$ come from anyway? The difference quotient for $2^x$ would be
$$\frac{2^{x+ h}- 2^x}{h}$$
not what you have. (Which looks like it would be for $2x^3$ if that "4" were a "2".)

We could then write $2^{x+y}= 2^x2^h$ and factor $2^x$ out. The difference quotient becomes
$$2^x \frac{2^h- 1}{h}$$
so that the derivative, the limit, as h goes to 0, of that, is $2^x$ times the limit of that last fraction. In fact, it is easy to see that the derivative of $a^x$ is just [itex]a^x[itex]itself times the limit of <br /> $$\frac{a^h- 1}{h}$$<br /> <br /> "e" happens to have that limit equal to 1. And one can use the properties of [itex]e^x[itex]to show that <br /> $$\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{a^h- 1}{h}= ln(a)$$ <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> = 54<br /> <br /> not exactly .69 </div> </div> </blockquote>[/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex]