The derivative of function under constraint

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The discussion centers on finding the derivative f'(5) of the function f defined by the equation f(x+y) = f(x)f(y), given f(5) = 2 and f'(0) = 3. The participants establish that f(0) = 1 and explore the implications of the functional equation. Ultimately, they conclude that f'(5) = 6, derived from the relationship f'(x) = f(x)f'(0) and the values provided. The discussion also highlights an inconsistency in the problem's conditions, indicating that the values for f(5) and f'(0) cannot coexist without contradiction.

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  • #31
I can also prove the inconsistency by taking,
f(x) = (f(5))x, it is given in question that f(5) = 2.
Now I am going to show that if f(5) = 2 then f'(0) ≠ 3
Differentiating,
## f'(x) = f(5)^x ln f(5) ##
Putting x = 0 and we know from question f(5) = 2
We see f'(0) = ln2 ≠ 3
So the values are dependent.
Is this also a way of correctly thinking?
 
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  • #32
Raghav Gupta said:
Why f(x) is only equal to f((1))x?
As Sammy is saying it could be any constant.
So we can also write f(x) =(f(2))x ?

It's looking like I'm going round and round if you see my encounter with Dick in this thread.
So if we take
## h\to 0 ##
Then f'(x)= f(x) \frac{f(h) - f(0)}{h}
Now what to do?

No: this equation is false. For finite ##h > 0## the right-hand-side is NOT equal to ##f'(x)##. Derivatives involve a limit, not just a difference-ratio.
 
  • #33
Ray Vickson said:
No: this equation is false. For finite ##h > 0## the right-hand-side is NOT equal to ##f'(x)##. Derivatives involve a limit, not just a difference-ratio.
But if you see I have written ## h\to 0 ##
 
  • #34
Raghav Gupta said:
But if you see I have written ## h\to 0 ##

No, you have not written it properly and in the correct place. You should have written
f'(x) = f(x) \, \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(h) -f(0)}{h}
THAT would be a correct statement.

Do you see how it is different from what you wrote? (This not mere quibbling; if you are not careful to write things correctly, they can come back later to cause you to make difficult-to-trace errors. I am trying to help you develop good habits that will be useful to you later, when problems are a lot more complicated.)
 
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