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The Difference Between Log and Ln

  1. Dec 5, 2014 #1
    Both are logarithms, what is the difference between log and ln?
     
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  3. Dec 5, 2014 #2

    Mark44

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    The base being used. log usually (but not always) means log10. ln always means loge.

    Occasionally, in computer science texts, log is used to mean log2.
     
  4. Dec 5, 2014 #3
    $$lnx=log_ex$$
    so that:
    $$ln(e)=1$$
    and
    $$log(x)=log_{10}x$$
    so that
    $$log(10)=1$$
     
  5. Dec 5, 2014 #4

    HallsofIvy

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    They way you are using it, log(x), or "common logarithm" is the inverse function to [tex]10^x[/tex]. That is, if [tex]y= log(x)= log_{10}(x)[/tex] then [tex]x= 10^y[/tex]. ln(x), the "natural logarithm", is the inverse function to [tex]e^x[/tex] ("e" is an irrational number, approximately 2.718...). If [tex]y= ln(x)[/tex] then [tex]x= e^y[/tex]. The common logarithm is used because our number system is base 10 so it is relatively easy to tabulate: [tex]log_{10}(3.00\times 10^5)= 5+ log_{10}(3.00)[/tex] so that it is sufficient to tabulate logarithms for 1 to 10.

    While "e" is a rather peculiar number, it has some nice "Calculus" properties. For example, if [tex]y= e^x[/tex] the "instantaneous rate of change" of y, as x changes, is again [tex]e^x[/tex] which means that the "instantaneous rate of change" of ln(x) is 1/x, a very easy function. Since the invention of "calculators", common logarithms are used a lot less so that it is becoming common to use "log(x)" to mean the "natural logarithm" as well as "ln(x)".
     
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  6. Dec 10, 2014 #5
    There's also ##\lg## which denotes ##\log_2##.
     
  7. Dec 10, 2014 #6

    pasmith

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    I'm sure I've seen "lg" used for base 10 logarithm in texts where "log" means natural logarithm.
     
  8. Dec 10, 2014 #7

    Mark44

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    As far as I can tell, there's no hard and fast rule. Depending on context, I have see "log" used as log10, ln, or log2.
     
  9. Dec 10, 2014 #8
    From what I understand, in higher maths, "log" denotes the natural logarithm quite frequently. It should usually be obvious from the context.
     
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