The failure to booststrap SU(3).

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The discussion centers on the challenges of isolating the gauge group SU(3) within string theory, contrasting it with groups like SO(32) and E8xE8. Key properties include the representation of SU(3) as 3 x 3 = 6 + \bar{3} and the involvement of orientifolds in string theory, which allows for specific representations of size n (n±1)/2. The conversation also explores the potential of using Sp(6) and SO(6) to recover SU(3) representations, as well as the implications of large N expansions and the role of complex manifolds and compactification in higher dimensions.

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One of the encouraging points of string theory is the ability to single out specific gauge groups, a feat that Chew himself thougth impossible back in 1970. But it extracts groups as SO(32) or E8xE8... elegant it is, but not simple.

So let's ask, is there really no way single out SU(3) from some consistency argument. Here the definite property is that \bf 3 \times 3 = 6 + \bar 3
and that the representations with size n (n\pm 1) /2 are seen to happen in string theory when orientifolds are involved. Here we could look to some 14 of Sp(6), or to SO(6), with a 15 what recovers back all the important game of SU(3), via
\bf 15 = >> 1_0 + 3_4 + \bar 3_{-4} + 8_0
while for higher Sp(2n) or SO(2n) groups using this same decomposition we still get the adjoint but not the defining and conjugate irreps of SU(n).
 
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By the way, a pretty nice trick to get 3-quark baryons in the large N expansion is to add a new set of quarks from the above (anti)symmetrisation. But lnot sure of its value... large N is a planar limit, isn't it? Or is it possible to get nonorientable planar large N? Even if so, something as SU(3)xSO(large N) could be more interesting than a swarm of new quarks.
 
Hmm, SU(3) is of course visible as holonomy requirement, and also relatively from decomposition of SO(8) into 1 +3 + 3 +1. But all of this is consequence of D=10, while the former argument in the OP could be used in any dimension. Also, if we are into extra dimensional origins, we have more tools: complex manifolds, compactification enhancements, and even Kaluza Klein on symmetric spaces.
 

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