The inclined plane: Movement & Coefficients of Friction

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a block projected up an inclined plane at a specific angle and initial velocity, with considerations of friction coefficients during motion and at rest. The participants are exploring concepts related to forces acting on the block, including gravity and friction, and how these affect the block's motion along the incline.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to draw free body diagrams to visualize forces acting on the block. There are mentions of applying Newton's second law and kinematic equations to analyze the motion. Some participants express uncertainty about how to set up equations without knowing the mass of the block or how to use the angle of the incline effectively.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing suggestions for approaches, such as drawing diagrams and applying force balance equations. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between forces and how to express them symbolically. Some participants are seeking further clarification on how to proceed with the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of specific mass values and express confusion regarding the application of equations related to forces and motion. There is an emphasis on understanding the components of forces acting on the block and how to derive the normal force from the inclined surface.

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Homework Statement


A block is projected up a 30° slope at 4m/s. When it is moving the coefficient of friction is 0.3. When the block is stationary the maximum coefficient of friction is 0.5.
a. Calculate how far up the block will go.
b. Show that the block will not remain there.
c. Calculate the velocity of the block when it reaches the bottom

Homework Equations


ΣF=mg
μ=Friction / Perpendicular Contact force

The Attempt at a Solution


I just joined a class in the middle of a topic, and so I am completely stuck at this one.
I know that when the block is stationary ΣF=0 in the x-direction (x-Axis is parallel to the inclined plane)
so when the object stops, the coefficient of friction is far greater.
I am not sure how to do the question, as we are not supplied a Mass (m), and I have no idea how to
use the angle θ to solve this. Any help would be appreciated!
 
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Maybe you can start by drawing yourself a free body diagram of each condition. You should then be able to apply your kinematic formulae to solve.
 
Apply Newton's 2nd law to find the acceleration. Then use kinematics. (That's one way to go.)
 
paisiello2 said:
Maybe you can start by drawing yourself a free body diagram of each condition. You should then be able to apply your kinematic formulae to solve.
I have already done that. I am focusing on part a.) of the question right now.
so There are 2 forces slowing the object down, the weight (gravity) and the friction.
But I don't understand how to use these equations. Could you perhaps give me an example,
or help me a bit more?
Thanks!
 
raindrop264 said:
so There are 2 forces slowing the object down, the weight (gravity) and the friction.
Good. What are they equal? (Symbolically, not numbers.) Then find ΣFx and set it equal to ma.
 
Doc Al said:
Good. What are they equal? (Symbolically, not numbers.) Then find ΣFx and set it equal to ma.[/QUOT
They are equal to the total downward (negative) force of Fx?
So we got something moving that is being deccelerated by two forces and we need to work out the distance it will travel, so we need to calculate the decceleration first as I understand it but I'm at a total loss here as to "how to find ΣFx and set it equal to ma." :/
 
raindrop264 said:
They are equal to the total downward (negative) force of Fx?
Give me an expression for each force: one for the weight and one for the friction force.
 
raindrop264 said:
They are equal to the total downward (negative) force of Fx?
So we got something moving that is being deccelerated by two forces and we need to work out the distance it will travel, so we need to calculate the decceleration first as I understand it but I'm at a total loss here as to "how to find ΣFx and set it equal to ma." :/
There are three forces altogether: gravity, normal force and friction.
While the block is sliding, there is a simple relationship between the magnitudes of the normal force and friction.
So to find the friction force you must first find the normal force.
The normal force from a surface is the force of least magnitude that will stop the object from penetrating the surface. Necessarily, that means it is at right angles to the surface. If you do a force balance in that direction you can find the normal force.
Do you know how to take the components of forces in a given direction and obtain a ##\Sigma F## force balance equation?
 

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