The last Beta and alpha for BJTs

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the minimum value of Beta (β) for bipolar junction transistors (BJTs) in the context of a homework problem. Participants explore the implications of Beta in relation to current sources and saturation conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Duave presents a calculation for Beta based on given equations and values, seeking validation of the approach and results.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the phrasing of the original question, particularly the term "current source."
  • A later post clarifies that the intended question was about the minimum Beta value for saturation, rather than a current source.
  • One participant confirms that Duave's calculations appear correct after the clarification of the question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the original question's phrasing, but some participants agree that the calculations presented are correct after the clarification regarding saturation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes a potential language barrier affecting the clarity of the question posed, which may have contributed to initial misunderstandings.

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Thank you for any help that you can offer.

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Homework Statement



What is the minimum value of Beta which would cause a source? current source?

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Homework Equations



Beta = IC/IB

IB = {(VB - VBE)/RE}
...............
IC = {[VCC - VC(sat)]/RC}


3. Attempt at solving the problem

Minimum Beta to cause a current:

Beta = IC/IB

IB = {(VB - VBE)/RE}
...............
IC = {[VCC - VC(sat)]/RC}
..............
IB = {(5 - 0.6)V/100kΩ}
...............
IB = (44uA)
...............
IC = (10 - 0.1)V/2kΩ
..............
IC = 4.95mA
..............
(IC)/(IB) = (4.95mA)/(44uA)
..............
(IC)/(IB) = 112.5 = β
.............. Are answers? Are there any errors located?

Thanks again for your help.
 
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To be honest i don't quite understand your question. But I think that your answer is correct.
 
Hi Duave. I think you are studying in a language that is not English? If that is so, then I recommend that you get the assistance of another student with the translation. We can understand your working and what it shows. We can't figure out what is meant by this question:

What is the minimum value of Beta which would cause a source? current source?
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Hi Duave. I think you are studying in a language that is not English? If that is so, then I recommend that you get the assistance of another student with the translation. We can understand your working and what it shows. We can't figure out what is meant by this question:

Sorry It's a typo:

What is the minimum value of Beta which would cause a saturation?
 
Duave said:
Sorry It's a typo:

What is the minimum value of Beta which would cause a saturation?
In that case, your answer looks both appropriate and correct. :smile:
 

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