The light from Mercury, the Sun's corona and gravity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the confirmation of General Relativity through the observation of light from Mercury and the Sun's corona. Participants explore the potential effects of the Sun's corona on light deviation and the methods used to isolate gravitational effects from lensing effects during observations, particularly during the 1919 solar eclipse.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the light deviation attributed to gravity was distinguished from potential lensing effects caused by the Sun's corona.
  • Another participant clarifies that Eddington's measurements were focused on the deflection of starlight due to the Sun's gravity, separate from the precession of Mercury's perihelion, which was known prior to Eddington's work.
  • Some participants suggest that the lensing effect of the corona is negligible but acknowledge the lack of references to substantiate this claim.
  • A participant references a paper by Will, noting that recent measurements have utilized multiple frequency bands to correct for the Sun's corona's effects, which vary by frequency.
  • Another participant highlights advancements in observational techniques, such as radio interferometry, which have provided more definitive measurements of light deflection since the 1919 eclipse.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the Sun's corona's lensing effects and the methods used to account for them. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which these effects may influence the observed light deviation attributed to gravity.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the corona's effects and the specific methodologies employed in historical observations. The dependence on definitions and the unresolved nature of certain mathematical steps are also noted.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying General Relativity, astrophysics, observational techniques in astronomy, and the historical context of significant scientific measurements.

Wondermine
The question is:
The General Relativity Ideas were confirmed by the position of Mercury by Eddington. How could they be certain that the light deviation was due to gravity rather than the lens effect the Sun's corona may have had?
What process was used,if any,to remove the effect of the corona on the light from Mercury?
The corona is an high energy particle "fog" which would lens light like a crystal. How to remove this in order to be certain gravity bent the light?
 
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You're conflating two different tests of General Relativity. What Eddington measured was the deviation of the position of stars due to the deflection of the starlight by the sun's gravity. He measured the positions of these stars during a total solar eclipse and again after the sun had moved away. The precession of the perihelion of Mercury was known since the 1800's to be more than Newton's theory predicted. Eddington was not part of this.

Your question still holds, however. I think the deflection due to the lensing effect of the corona is negligible, but I have no references to back this up. The density of the corona is known, so this deflection could be calculated.
 
This paper by Will reviews the history of measurements of light bending by the Sun:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1409.7812.pdf

He notes on p. 10 that recent measurements have taken readings in multiple frequency bands, to correct for the effects of the Sun's corona (which is expected to deflect radiation of different frequencies by different amounts, whereas the GR effect is the same for all frequencies).
 
Wondermine said:
How could they be certain that the light deviation was due to gravity rather than the lens effect the Sun's corona may have had?

That 1919 eclipse observation is certainly of historical significance. But it may interest you to know that since that time we have observations that are a lot more definitive.
See, for example, this article by Clifford M. Will: http://link.springer.com/article/10.12942/lrr-2014-4#Sec4. Here is a relevant passage:

[...]the development of radio interferometery, and later of very-long-baseline radio interferometry (VLBI), produced greatly improved determinations of the deflection of light.
 

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