The maximum height an object on a wire moves after a collision

In summary, the problem involves a 0.04 kg bead sliding on a curved frictionless wire and colliding elastically with a 0.6 kg ball at rest at point B. The goal is to find the height that the ball moves up the wire after the collision. Using the equations for conservation of momentum and energy, the final velocities of the masses can be calculated. The solution is found to be -1.084 m/s for the final velocity of the ball and the answer for the height is .96 m.
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Homework Statement


A. 04 kg bead slides on a curved frictionless wire, starting from rest at point A. At point B, the bead collides elastically with a 0.6-kg ball at rest. Find the height that the ball moves up the wire.

The answer is .96 m.

Homework Equations



m1v1i + m2v2i=m1v1f + m2v2f

The Attempt at a Solution


PE lost by A = KE gained by A by the time it collides with B-->

mgh=1/2mvf^2
0.4 (9.8)(1.5) = 1/2 (0.4)vf^2
vf= square root ((2)(0.4)(9.8)(1.5)/.4)
vf= 5.422 m/sSo I use the equation for elastic collisions. . .

0+ 0.6 (5.422)= 0.4(5.422)+ 0.6 v2f

v2f= 1.8074 m/s

Then I plug in: mgh = 1/2mv^2

.6 (9.8) h = (1.8072^2) .5 .6
h= .16 m

THIS IS WRONG H IS SUPPOSED TO BE .96 m.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong!
 
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0+ 0.6 (5.422)= 0.4(5.422)+ 0.6 v2f

This equation is wrong. It should be

[tex]m_1v_{1i}+ m_2v_{2i} = m_1v_{1f} + m_2v_{2f}[/tex]

Similarly write down the equation for the conservation of energy. Using these two equations solve for final velocities of both the masses.
 
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Hello! Thank you for your response.

Using a simplified equation derived from the conservation of energy (Serway & Faughn, 1992):

v1i + v1f = v2f +v2i----> v1f= v2f + v2i - v1i
m1v1i + m2v2i = m1(v2f + v2i - v1i) + m2v2f

I don't know what to plug in. I plug things in, but I am getting an incorrect answer. The answer should be -1.084. I am not getting this answer. Once I find the correct v2f I should be able to perform the last step correctly. . .
 
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Using the conservation of momentum and energy, you will get

[tex]v_{1f} = \frac{v_{1i}(m_1 - m_2)}{(m_1 + m_2)}[/tex]

[tex]v_{2f} = \frac{2v_{1i}m_1}{(m_1 + m_2)}[/tex]

Now proceed.
 
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Your attempt at a solution is correct, but there is a mistake in your calculation for the final velocity of the ball after the collision. You wrote vf= 5.422 m/s, but it should be vf= 5.422/0.4 = 13.555 m/s.

Using this value for vf in the equation for elastic collisions, you will get v2f= 3.185 m/s.

Then, plugging this into the equation for conservation of energy, you will get h= 0.96 m, which is the correct answer.

So, the mistake was just a simple calculation error. Keep in mind to always be careful with your calculations and double-check them to avoid mistakes.
 

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