The mean value of (1/r^2) given a normalised wavefunction

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mean value of the function (1/r^2) using a normalized wavefunction for the 1s electron in a hydrogen atom, specifically in terms of the Bohr radius.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the method of finding the expectation value of (1/r^2) and consider using spherical coordinates for integration. Questions arise about the setup of the integral and the conversion to spherical polar coordinates.

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Participants have explored different approaches to setting up the integral and have shared their calculations. Some have provided guidance on the integration process, while others have identified and corrected their own mistakes in the calculations.

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There is mention of the need to cancel a factor of pi in the integration process, and participants are navigating the complexities of triple integrals in spherical coordinates.

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The normalised wavefunction for the 1s electron in the hydrogen atom is

ψ=(1/((PI^1/2).a^3/2)).exp(-r/a)

where a is the bohr radius.

What is the mean value of (1/r2) in terms of the Bohr radius a0?



Answer: 2/(a^2)
 
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How do you think you should proceed? How does one calculate mean values?
 
kuruman said:
How do you think you should proceed? How does one calculate mean values?

well basically i tried using the method of finding the expectation value of (1/r^2) although i was not ble to get the final answer, i thought about doing the integration using spherical polars, because there is a factor of pi that will need to be canceled out, but i still couldn't get the correct answer.
 
Yes you need to find the expectation value of 1/r2 and spherical coordinates is the way to go. Can you show exactly how you set up the integral?
 
i set it up as

integral of (1/(pi)a^3).(exp(-2r/a)/r^2)dr

but i do not no how to convert this into spherical polar i know that the volume element of spherical polar is (r^2)sin(theta)drd(theta)d(phi) but i don't no how to convert the dr line elemnt into spherical polars
 
This is a triple integral. There is nothing to convert. You should just do the integral over r. Now the angular part of the integral is

\int_0^{\pi} sin\theta d\theta\int_{0}^{2\pi} d \phi

You need to do these two integrals separately and multiply the result with the radial integral.
 
i have done that and the integral of them is equal to 2pi

but once i do the integral of (exp(-2r/a)dr from 0<r<inifinity

i get a/2

this gives me a final answer of 1/(a^2) and the correct answer is 2/(a^2)

do u know where i am missing the extra factor of 2?
 
sorry i went over the angular part and got an answer of 4pi, so i have the right answer now

thanks for your help
 

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