The motor principle and direction of force on conductor

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The discussion revolves around the motor principle and the direction of force on a conductor within a magnetic field. Participants are exploring the application of the right-hand and left-hand rules in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to verify the correctness of their application of the right-hand rule for the motor principle. There is some confusion regarding the use of the left-hand rule as mentioned by another tutor. Questions about the necessity of showing magnetic field lines are also raised.

Discussion Status

Some participants express agreement with the original poster's answer while also suggesting additional elements to consider, such as the representation of magnetic field lines. There is an ongoing exploration of the different rules and their applications without a clear consensus on which is preferred.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of varying terminology and rules in textbooks, indicating a potential source of confusion among participants regarding the correct application of the motor principle.

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can someone please verify if my answer is correct. Thanks!
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I used the right-hand rule for the motor principle (although another tutor on physics forum told me that its supposed to be the 'left-hand rule' for the motor principle??) to check my answer.
Using the right hand rule, my thumb must point “out of the page”, fingers facing towards the bottom of the page (facing towards the S-pole). My palm pushes in the direction of the force, as shown in the diagram above.
 
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I concur with your answer, but you also need to show the field lines for the magnet.
 
alexandria said:
although another tutor on physics forum told me that its supposed to be the 'left-hand rule' for the motor principle??
Your answer is correct. The right
-hand rule you are using is actually the right-hand palm rule(or 'slap' rule). The left-hand rule I was referring to is the Fleming's left- hand rule which involves index finger(force), middle finger(field) and thumb(current). Both give the same result. But I believe Fleming's rules are more common in textbooks, left-hand for motor and right-hand for generator.
 
got it, thanks :smile:
 

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