The operation of magnetically coupled circuits

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving a transformer with specified primary and secondary turns, resistances, and reactances. Participants are attempting to determine equivalent resistance, reactance, impedance referred to the primary winding, and the phase angle of the impedance. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanation related to transformer models.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an attempt at calculating equivalent resistance and reactance, yielding values of 0.41Ω and 1.64Ω respectively.
  • Another participant questions whether there is a load on the secondary, suggesting that if there is none, the secondary winding can be ignored.
  • Some participants propose that the problem may refer to the transformer equivalent model, noting that the turns ratio should be squared in the calculations.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of having no load on the secondary circuit, with suggestions that the problem may be incomplete or misleading without additional context.
  • There is a discussion about the potential for the secondary to be shorted, with one participant humorously warning against this due to the nature of power transformers.
  • Speculation arises that the original poster may have omitted important details regarding load characteristics, leading to confusion about the problem's intent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of the secondary winding and the completeness of the problem statement. There is no consensus on how to approach the problem due to the ambiguity regarding load conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential limitations of the problem, including missing assumptions about load characteristics and the context in which the transformer model is being discussed.

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Homework Statement



A transformer has 600 primary turns and 150 secondary turns. The primary and the second resistances are 0.25Ω and 0.01 Ω respectively and the corresponding reactances are 1.0Ω and 0.04Ω respectively.
Detemine the equivalent:
1. resistance
2. the reactance and
3. the equivalent impedance reffered to the primary winding
4. the phase angle of the impedance.

Anyone could help me with this question? Thank you

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution

 
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I have been trying to answer some of them myself.
For equivalent resistance:
2
Re= R1 + R2= R1 + R2 ( V1 : V2)

Re= 0.41Ω

For equivalent reactance:
2
Xe= X1 + X2' = X1 + X2 ( V1: V2)

Xe= 1.64 Ω

Am i correct?
 
Is there a load on the secondary? If not, just ignore the secondary winding altogether and solve the circuit with the primary winding only.
 
Thanks. I will solve it OK now
 
The problem may be referring to the transformer equivalent model referred to the primary. If so, the results reported by Agata78 in post #2 look correct (although the math as presented is not correct as the turns ratio should be squared in both cases).
 
gneill said:
The problem may be referring to the transformer equivalent model referred to the primary. If so, the results reported by Agata78 in post #2 look correct (although the math as presented is not correct as the turns ratio should be squared in both cases).

If there is no load there is no secondary circuit. There is only a single inductor. The model, turns ratio, secondary leakage inductance and resistance do not matter.
 
rude man said:
If there is no load there is no secondary circuit. There is only a single inductor. The model, turns ratio, secondary leakage inductance and resistance do not matter.

The problem may be referring to the model alone and not a complete circuit. Or, if you like, consider the secondary to be shorted. The OP would have to put the problem in context to clarify (is the problem associated with a chapter covering the transformer model, for example). Otherwise it's hard to see the point of providing the all the information that's given.
 
gneill said:
The problem may be referring to the model alone and not a complete circuit. Or, if you like, consider the secondary to be shorted. The OP would have to put the problem in context to clarify (is the problem associated with a chapter covering the transformer model, for example). Otherwise it's hard to see the point of providing the all the information that's given.

You can't short the secondary without toxic smoke! This is a power xfmr; look at the primary and secondary winding impedances. The components in the model referring to the secondary winding may be totally removed without affecting the four things asked for in the problem if there is no load.

My suspicion is that either the OP left out load characteristics, or it's a trick question. Probably the former.
 

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