The Perodic Motion Spring Problem

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The problem involves a mass-spring system where a mass of 0.82 kg is attached to a spring with a spring constant of 205 N/m. The mass is initially compressed 12.2 cm from its equilibrium position and released from rest. The question seeks to determine the time it takes for the mass to reach a position of -1 cm after being released.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the amplitude and the position of the mass, questioning whether the amplitude should be considered as -1 cm when calculating time. There is also exploration of the displacement from the initial position to -1 cm.

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Some participants have attempted to apply the equation of motion for harmonic oscillators, while others are clarifying the definitions of amplitude and phase constant. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations involved, with one participant noting a discrepancy between their calculated time and a referenced answer.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment and are trying to clarify the setup and definitions related to the motion of the mass-spring system. There is an emphasis on understanding the phase constant and its implications for the motion described.

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Homework Statement


A mass 0.82kg is attached to a spring of constant 205N/m. The mass slides along a horizontal frictionless surface. The spring is compressed a distance 12.2cm from its equilibrium position and the mass is released from rest. How long after it is released will the mass be at x=-1cm for the first time?

Homework Equations


x(t) = A*cos([tex]\omega[/tex]*t+[tex]\phi[/tex])
E = (1/2)(k)(A)^2 = (1/2)(k)(x^2) + (1/2)(m)(v^2)

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I'm having trouble finding out time. I tried to solve for max velocity and solve for regular velocity, but sadly it didn't work.

I also let A = .122m when t = 0.

I know that the equilibrium position is zero, but are they asking me to find out the time between equilibrium position and -1cm? If it is, does that mean, A = -1cm?

Thanks,

I spend hours trying to do some research on it, even I look at my teachers notes.
 
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blackbyron said:
I know that the equilibrium position is zero, but are they asking me to find out the time between equilibrium position and -1cm? If it is, does that mean, A = -1cm?

They ask to calculate the time while the object reaches x=-1 cm from the initial position. A is the amplitude, it is unchanged.


ehild
 
ehild said:
They ask to calculate the time while the object reaches x=-1 cm from the initial position. A is the amplitude, it is unchanged.


ehild

Thanks for the reply. Okay, so it basically asks me to find the time that reaches from the initial position. So, do I need to find the displacement, for example, it starts from 0 to 12cm, then 12cm, to -1cm? Do I to add them together so I can solve for t?
 
So I tried this,

x(t) = Acos(wt+Q)
x(0) = Acos(w(0)) = .122m -----> A = .122m


set

-.01m = .122cos(w(t)) + Q) Q = 0
-.125m = cos((w(t))

w = sqrt(k/m) = 15.81 rad/s

1.696 = 15.81t

t = .107s

but the answer says its .0942s, so I have no idea how it got that.
 
The vibration starts with x=-0.122 m, as the spring is compressed, (shorter than the equilibrium length). What is the phase constant then?

ehild
 
ehild said:
The vibration starts with x=-0.122 m, as the spring is compressed, (shorter than the equilibrium length). What is the phase constant then?

ehild

OOOOHHH, I see, yeah, what am I thinking here? lol


Thank you ehild, sorry for trouble.
 

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