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The discussion revolves around the nature of virtual particles, particularly in the context of the Unruh effect, where accelerated observers perceive a hot bath of particles that are considered virtual. Participants clarify that virtual particles are akin to virtual photons in interactions and emphasize the need for a quasiparticle picture to represent actual particles in a hot bath. The conversation also distinguishes between virtual particles, quasiparticles, and real particles, noting that quasiparticles arise from coherent states while virtual particles are unobservable artifacts in theoretical frameworks like Feynman diagrams. Additionally, the role of the Hamiltonian in defining systems and the implications of different representations in quantum field theory are highlighted. The insights aim to clarify misconceptions about virtual particles and their relevance in quantum mechanics.
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I updated my Insight article by adding at the end a lot of factual information on vacuum fluctuations and related topics, based on the fairly precise definition of vacuum fluctuations on p.119 in the quantum field theory book by Itzykson and Zuber 1980.
 
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To be pedantic: You write

According to the Born rule, the distribution of a quantum observable gives the probabilities for measuring values for the observable in independent, identical preparations of the system in identical states. Thus the presence of a Gaussian distribution means that the attempt to measure the electromagnetic field in the vacuum state cannot be done with arbitrary precision but has an inherent uncertainty.
I would write

According to the Born rule, the distribution of a quantum observable gives the probabilities for measuring values for the observable in independent, identical preparations of the system in identical states. Thus the presence of a Gaussian distribution means that the value of the electromagnetic field in the vacuum state is not determined with arbitrary precision but has an inherent uncertainty.

The fluctuations of observables are not due to the limitations of measurement accuracy but due to the state the system is prepared in. This is also often discussed in a misleading way in context of the usual uncertainty relation. Also in this case the uncertainty/fluctuations of observables are due to the impossibility to prepare the system in such a way that both incompatible observables have a determined value; it's not a limitation to the accuracy you can measure the one or the other observable.
 
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vanhees71 said:
According to the Born rule, the distribution of a quantum observable gives the probabilities for measuring values for the observable in independent, identical preparations of the system in identical states. Thus the presence of a Gaussian distribution means that the value of the electromagnetic field in the vacuum state is not determined with arbitrary precision but has an inherent uncertainty.
Yes, that's an improvement. I updated the page.
 
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