The relation between span(In,A,A2, )and it's minimal polynomial

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the dimension of the span of a matrix and its minimal polynomial, specifically focusing on the span of the identity matrix and powers of a matrix A.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the dimension of the span of matrices and its connection to the degree of the minimal polynomial. Questions arise regarding specific cases, such as the implications of a minimal polynomial of the form x^2+x+1 and the ability to express certain matrices in terms of others within the span.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the assumptions behind their reasoning and exploring various interpretations of the relationships involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the dimensions and spans, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants express uncertainty about the ability to represent matrix A in terms of other matrices within the span, indicating potential constraints or misunderstandings regarding the definitions and properties of spans and minimal polynomials.

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Let A ∈ Mn×n(F )
Why dim span(In, A, A2, A3, . . .) = deg(mA)?? where mA is the minimal polynomial of A.
For span (In,A,A2...)

I can prove its

dimension <= n by CH Theorem

but what's the relation between

dim span(In,A,A2...)and deg(mA)
 
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For example, if the minimal polynomial is [itex]x^2+x+1[/itex]. Then [itex]A^2+A+1=0[/itex].

Do you see any way to conclude that [itex]A^2\in span(A,1)[/itex]?
 
ybut i don't know why can't I write A
 
ybut i don't know why can't I write A in spanA2I
 
y,but i don't know why can't I write A in span{A2,I}?
I'm sorry about the type..
 
alazhumizhu said:
y,but i don't know why can't I write A in span{A2,I}?
I'm sorry about the type..

That's also true, but I don't see how this fact helps you solve the problem.
 

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