The speed of a projectile when it reaches its maximum height

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The problem involves determining the initial projection angle of a projectile based on its speed at maximum height and half of that height. The context is rooted in projectile motion, specifically examining the relationship between speed components and height.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the components of velocity at different heights and attempt to derive relationships between them. There are questions about the correctness of the velocity components and the equations used to find the final speed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on how to set up the equations, while others are questioning the calculations and assumptions made by the original poster.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific expected answer (67.8 degrees), but participants are struggling to arrive at this conclusion, indicating potential miscalculations or misunderstandings in the application of the equations of motion.

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Homework Statement


The speed of a projectile when it reaches its maximum height is one-half its speed when it is at half its maxi- mum height. What is the initial projection angle of the projectile?

Homework Equations


Vf2 = vi2 + 2ax

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the speed at the top only consist of an x component and that the speed at half the height would be sqrt(vx2+vy2) . But I am trying everything from two hours and not getting a solution. The answer is suppost to be 67.8 but I don't know how to get it someone help
 
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The max height of the projectile is given by \frac {u^2sin^2(\theta)}{2g} where \theta is the angle of projection. Half the height would be \frac {u^2sin^2(\theta)}{4g} . Find the y-component of velocity at half the height . Find the speed by adding the x and y components. Equate it to twice the x-component. Solve for \theta . You should get your answer.
 
X comp : Vicos@t
Y comp : sqrt(visin@ -2gh/2)
 
X comp : Vicos@ ***
 
Vf = sqrt((vicos@)^2 + Visin@-gh)
 
Are those the correct components?
 
The x-component is correct (v_icos (\theta)) the y-component is wrong. You should learn \LaTeX else your equations are hard to read.
 
Visin@ - gt ?
 
You are just giving me equations, I don't think you are putting in much effort. For the y-component v_i = v_isin(\theta) , acceleration a = -g and height h = \frac{v_i^2sin^2(\theta)}{4g} What equation of motion do you use now to get v_f ?
 
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Vf2 = vi2 + 2ax
 
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So I will get vi2sin2@/2 for vfy and then i get vf which will be sqrt(vi2cos2@ + vi2sin2@) i equate this to 2
 
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2viCos@ which gives me Cos@2 = 1/3 which gives an angle of 54.74 while the answer is 67.8
 
  • #13
You have clearly made a calculation mistake , using the equation you'll get v_f^2 = \frac{v_i^2sin^2(\theta)}{2} . The resulting equation will be 4v_i^2cos^2(\theta) = v_i^2cos^2(\theta) + \frac{v_i^2sin^2(\theta)}{2} Solve for \theta you'll get your answer.
 

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