The taste of hot water vs. cold water

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The discussion revolves around the perceived taste differences between hot and cold water, exploring the chemical and physical factors that may contribute to these differences. Participants reference concepts from chemistry, such as equilibrium and the presence of dissolved substances, while also sharing anecdotal experiences and literary references.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that heating water increases the concentration of hydronium and hydroxide ions, potentially affecting taste, but questions the complexity of this relationship.
  • Another participant proposes that the taste of heated water may be influenced by the escape of dissolved gases and the denaturation of organic matter.
  • A different participant notes that the pH of drinking water is rarely exactly 7 due to dissolved salts, which may also affect taste.
  • Some participants agree on the role of dissolved gases, including chlorine in utility-supplied water, in altering taste perceptions.
  • A literary reference is made to a story about astronauts on a lunar base who found their water supply unpalatable due to excess dissolved oxygen, suggesting that similar principles may apply to the taste of water on Earth.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that factors such as dissolved gases and organic matter influence the taste of water, but there is no consensus on the primary reasons for the taste differences between hot and cold water. Multiple competing views remain regarding the chemical processes involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the purity of drinking water and the specific conditions under which taste changes occur, but these factors are not fully resolved or quantified.

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In my chemistry class today we learned about equilibrium and how temperature affects the equilibrium constant. An example that was cited was this chemical equation:

H2O <--> H3O+ + OH-

I learned that increasing the heat of the water will drive the equilibrium toward the right side, increasing the concentration of hydronium and hydroxide ions.

I raised my hand in class and asked "is that why hot water tastes bad? you know, because of all the hydronium, perhaps it reacts with the ions in our mouths or something and creates a bad taste in our mouth? maybe?"

I figure it can't be JUST because it's hot. Even water that you've left in your hot car all day tastes like ****, even if you can tolerate the temperature. It's just awful tasting. I know that the ratio of hydronium to hydroxide would remain constant and wouldn't necessarily change the pH of the solution, but its more complicated because of equilibrium yada yada yada, right?

My teacher did not have an answer.

So... yes? no? maybe?
 
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Coitus said:
In my chemistry class today we learned about equilibrium and how temperature affects the equilibrium constant. An example that was cited was this chemical equation:

H2O <--> H3O+ + OH-

I learned that increasing the heat of the water will drive the equilibrium toward the right side, increasing the concentration of hydronium and hydroxide ions.

I raised my hand in class and asked "is that why hot water tastes bad? you know, because of all the hydronium, perhaps it reacts with the ions in our mouths or something and creates a bad taste in our mouth? maybe?"

I figure it can't be JUST because it's hot. Even water that you've left in your hot car all day tastes like ****, even if you can tolerate the temperature. It's just awful tasting. I know that the ratio of hydronium to hydroxide would remain constant and wouldn't necessarily change the pH of the solution, but its more complicated because of equilibrium yada yada yada, right?

My teacher did not have an answer.

So... yes? no? maybe?

hello coitus,
This may be not the good answer but i will try to explain your question with what i think a logical answer. Water we drinks is not 100% pure H20; It contains dissolved gases and organic matters. When we are heating the water the dissolved gases escapes and organic matters denatures.This may be the reason why taste of water changes when heating
 
To add to what newbe wrote, pH of the water we drink is never exactly 7, because of the dissolved salts (mostly carbonates) present.
 
Agreed on the dissolved gasses...

FWIW, 'utility-supplied' water may have dissolved chlorine, too. I find our tap water is barely drinkable unless I slosh in 5~~10% of 'sparkling water' to flush the chlorine, replenish the CO2 and lower the pH a bit...

Uh, there was a superb short story by, IIRC, A C Clarke, about Lunar base astronauts who found their water supply gradually tasted too 'wrong' to drink. They could only stomach the recycler's limited output, eventually expired of heat exhaustion and thirst. Flavour turned out to be a surfeit of dissolved oxygen which they could have removed in minutes using an improvised 'boiling stone' and the vacuum outside the base...
 
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Nik_2213 said:
Uh, there was a superb short story by, IIRC, A C Clarke, about Lunar base astronauts who found their water supply gradually tasted too 'wrong' to drink. They could only stomach the recycler's limited output, eventually expired of heat exhaustion and thirst. Flavour turned out to be a surfeit of dissolved oxygen which they could have removed in minutes using an improvised 'boiling stone' and the vacuum outside the base...

Now, THAT's what I call a magnificent story... Thanks for sharing :)
 

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