The value of electric current on a sinking conductor

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The problem involves a flat capacitor with square plates, exploring the current flowing between the plates and the source while the capacitor is immersed in kerosene. The scenario includes specific dimensions, voltage, and the velocity of immersion, along with the relative permittivity of the medium.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the depth of immersion and the capacitance, questioning how to compute time in the context of the velocity of the sinking conductor. There are attempts to clarify the role of certain variables in the equations related to current and capacitance.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the equations involved, with some participants suggesting assumptions about variables and others exploring the differentiation of capacitance with respect to time. There is a recognition of the need to find the current as the ultimate goal, and some guidance has been provided regarding handling variables in the equations.

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Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions needed for the calculations, particularly regarding the time variable and its implications in the equations. There is also a note of language barrier from the original poster, which may affect clarity in communication.

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Homework Statement


A flat capacitor formed by two square plates of side 0.3 m which are 2 mm apart. Source keeps voltage 250 V on the plates. What current flows between the plates and the source if the condenser is immersing in kerosene at velocity of 5 mm / s? The relative permittivity of kerosene is 2.

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I=Q/t

Because of the fact that immersing cunductor can be understood as two parallel conductors the capacity of an immersed conductor (the depth x = v*t) is C =(ε0*(a-x)*a)/d + (ε0εr*a*x)/d

My question is how do I compute the time in the x = v*t? And sorry for my english.
 
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The simple answer is you don't. Just assume you know it and hope it cancels out in the end.
 
vela said:
The simple answer is you don't. Just assume you know it and hope it cancels out in the end.
But it doesn't cancel in the end because of the plus and minus in the equation
 
What equation? Remember your ultimate goal is to find the current.
 
vela said:
What equation? Remember your ultimate goal is to find the current.
I think I get it now...

I put the "v*t" instead the "x" in the equation for capacity, multiply it by the voltage (U) and then derivate it following I=dQ/dt

Or am I wrong?

Anyways thank you for your clear explanation, it helped me a lot
 
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That's right. Or you could just leave it as ##x##, and when you differentiate with respect to time, you'll get ##v## in its place.
 

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