The weight of one of three bricks

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The discussion revolves around the weight of one of three bricks, each with mass ##m##. Participants explore the relationship between the weight of the bricks and the forces acting on them, including the concepts of normal force and net force.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the weight of the first brick can be calculated as ##3mg - 2mg = mg##.
  • Another participant questions which brick is referred to as the first, emphasizing that each brick weighs the same.
  • A participant clarifies that the top surface of the first brick experiences a force equal to the weight of the two bricks above it, while the bottom surface feels the weight of all three bricks.
  • Another participant states that the weight of each brick is ##mg## and distinguishes between weight and normal force, using the middle brick as an example to illustrate the forces acting on it.
  • One participant reiterates that each brick has a weight of ##mg##, independent of the other bricks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the weight of the bricks and the forces acting on them. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the weight in relation to the other bricks.

Contextual Notes

Some participants may be conflating the concepts of weight and normal force, leading to confusion in their arguments. The discussion includes various interpretations of the forces acting on the bricks, which may depend on the specific context or assumptions made.

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Hello!

I have three bricks with masses ##m##.
Am I right that the weight of first brick is ##3mg-2mg=mg##?

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Which one is the first brick?
Each brick weights the same.
 
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Lnewqban said:
Which one is the first brick?
Each brick weights the same.
number 1 on the picture
 
Then, you are correct.
Its top surface is “feeling” a force equal to the weight of both bricks above it (2 mg).
Its bottom surface is “feeling” a force equal to the weight of the three bricks (3 mg).
 
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Mike_bb said:
I have three bricks with masses ##m##.
Am I right that the weight of first brick is ##3mg-2mg=mg##?
If its mass is ##m## then its weight is ##mg## per definition. That has nothing to do with the other bricks or your picture.
 
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The weight of each brick is ##mg##. You are confusing weight with normal force.

Take the middle brick as an example. There are three forces acting on it. There's the downward weight force of magnitude ##mg##, a downward normal force of magnitude ##mg## due to contact with the brick above, and an upward normal force of magnitude ##2mg## due to contact with the lower brick.

And therefore, of course, the net force on the middle brick is zero. Indeed, the net force on each brick zero, as is the net force on the entire collection of bricks.

Edit: Draw three well-separated free body diagrams, one of each brick. Identify each Third Law pair of equal-but-opposite forces. The mental effort required will benefit you greatly.
 
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Mike_bb said:
Hello!

I have three bricks with masses ##m##.
Am I right that the weight of first brick is ##3mg-2mg=mg##?

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Thanks.
each brick has a weight mg totally independent of the other bricks
 
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